problem with shift knob install
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From: kalaMAZOO MI
problem with shift **** install
2008 6mt. Hey i recently installed a Hurst OEM fit shift ****. When i removed the stock screw, it stripped. Had to use extractor to get it out. New screw supplied with **** was much longer. See pics. Do i have an aberrant/ weird setup? Are my threads out of spec? Did factory go overboard with loctite? ANy input helpful. I got the new screw in, but only 1/2 way and it stripped. Shift boot hides it. Now putting on new shift boot, i have 2 more screws from vendor to use. Will have to extract the one that is 1/2 way in it now.
this is the black short screw that was in my shifter/knobb from the factory. With extractor still attached!
this is the black short screw that was in my shifter/knobb from the factory. With extractor still attached!
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the new screws are long enough to go all way across shifter and have more of a flush head. Have been assured that this is correct screw. No matter what i seem to put in there it strips on the way in or out. Should i get a shorter screw like this black oem one that was in my shifter? Is the screw included with the new **** truly the right one? Is my setup a one off?
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I had something very similar happen when I tried to install a new shift ball on my 06. I don't know if the 06 setup is the same as the 08? I don't want to make your situation worse if they aren't the same.... I'm sure someone like Talon knows if they are attached the same way on those model years... If they are I can tell you how I fixed the problem with a quick trip to the local hardware store.... If the OP PM's me phone# I'll give you call with what I did to fix the problem... 
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St. Jude Donor '09
the new screws are long enough to go all way across shifter and have more of a flush head. Have been assured that this is correct screw. No matter what i seem to put in there it strips on the way in or out. Should i get a shorter screw like this black oem one that was in my shifter? Is the screw included with the new **** truly the right one? Is my setup a one off?
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I think we spoke about this and if that screw does not easily go all the way in (even without the ****) the threads are damaged or blocked. I have installed those screws on 15+ shifter personally and have a few hundred customers install them and never had this issue. If the new screws do not easily go in, you need to either shorten the screw or run a tap through the threads and fix them. Thread is Metric 18-8 M5 .8 mm Pitch
That's exactly what I had to do to get the screw properly installed....
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St. Jude Donor '09
I had something very similar happen when I tried to install a new shift ball on my 06. I don't know if the 06 setup is the same as the 08? I don't want to make your situation worse if they aren't the same.... I'm sure someone like Talon knows if they are attached the same way on those model years... If they are I can tell you how I fixed the problem with a quick trip to the local hardware store.... If the OP PM's me phone# I'll give you call with what I did to fix the problem...
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Mine was tapped all the way through only the threads simply didn't line up right. Only way to get the screw all the way through was to run a tap (very carefully) all the way through. That cleaned up the threads and then the screw would go all the in flush. Before doing that the screw would simply bind up and not go flush....
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I think we spoke about this and if that screw does not easily go all the way in (even without the ****) the threads are damaged or blocked. I have installed those screws on 15+ shifter personally and have a few hundred customers install them and never had this issue. If the new screws do not easily go in, you need to either shorten the screw or run a tap through the threads and fix them. Thread is Metric 18-8 M5 .8 mm Pitch
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From: kalaMAZOO MI
Son of Dreams thanks for your input, i appreciate your excellent service and sending me some replacement screws. Sounds like i need to get my threads re-tapped! WHy do i always have stuff like this happen? Makes me afraid to do more mods if i run into this kind of trouble with just the shift ****!
Again i am sorry if it came across as bashing, that was not my goal and i will give NakdiParts and Ed a HUGE thumbs up for being an aweosme vendor.
I am just frustrated! How much simpler can a mod be than a SINGLE SCREW?!?! Nothing is ever simple for me!
Again i am sorry if it came across as bashing, that was not my goal and i will give NakdiParts and Ed a HUGE thumbs up for being an aweosme vendor.
I am just frustrated! How much simpler can a mod be than a SINGLE SCREW?!?! Nothing is ever simple for me!
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I think we spoke about this and if that screw does not easily go all the way in (even without the ****) the threads are damaged or blocked. I have installed those screws on 15+ shifter personally and have a few hundred customers install them and never had this issue. If the new screws do not easily go in, you need to either shorten the screw or run a tap through the threads and fix them. Thread is Metric 18-8 M5 .8 mm Pitch
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From: kalaMAZOO MI
I had something very similar happen when I tried to install a new shift ball on my 06. I don't know if the 06 setup is the same as the 08? I don't want to make your situation worse if they aren't the same.... I'm sure someone like Talon knows if they are attached the same way on those model years... If they are I can tell you how I fixed the problem with a quick trip to the local hardware store.... If the OP PM's me phone# I'll give you call with what I did to fix the problem...
hey i am working so if it is something simple, like buying a specific screw, could you just hit me wiht a post? Sounds like consensus is my threads are bad. Might be tuff playing phone tag.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Son of Dreams thanks for your input, i appreciate your excellent service and sending me some replacement screws. Sounds like i need to get my threads re-tapped! WHy do i always have stuff like this happen? Makes me afraid to do more mods if i run into this kind of trouble with just the shift ****!
Again i am sorry if it came across as bashing, that was not my goal and i will give NakdiParts and Ed a HUGE thumbs up for being an aweosme vendor.I am just frustrated! How much simpler can a mod be than a SINGLE SCREW?!?! Nothing is ever simple for me!
Again i am sorry if it came across as bashing, that was not my goal and i will give NakdiParts and Ed a HUGE thumbs up for being an aweosme vendor.
I am just frustrated! How much simpler can a mod be than a SINGLE SCREW?!?! Nothing is ever simple for me!
you are an invaluable resource to the forum and to the planet in general!
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From: kalaMAZOO MI
Mine was tapped all the way through only the threads simply didn't line up right. Only way to get the screw all the way through was to run a tap (very carefully) all the way through. That cleaned up the threads and then the screw would go all the in flush. Before doing that the screw would simply bind up and not go flush....
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From: kalaMAZOO MI
i ended up buying a metric tap n die set for $25, onlyl wzay i could get it. It took all of 3 minutes to fix it, now screw goes in easy cheesy. Thanks to all and Ed at NakidParts for all the help!!!!
help!!!!
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As I mentioned in another thread, I really FUBARed my Nakidparts Hurst shift **** install on my '06 vert. Even after checking the alignment five damn times, I still cross threaded it AND sheared the screw head off.
I'll probably just buy the metric tap set (got the specific thread parameters from Son of Dreams; thanks for that, BTW). But where do I get a replacement screw and what do I ask for? And short of taking a drill to the hole in the shift handle, is there a better way of getting the bad screw out?
Thanks.
I'll probably just buy the metric tap set (got the specific thread parameters from Son of Dreams; thanks for that, BTW). But where do I get a replacement screw and what do I ask for? And short of taking a drill to the hole in the shift handle, is there a better way of getting the bad screw out?
Thanks.
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From: kalaMAZOO MI
an extractor can still work, i got a set at sears. I got Ed to send me a few extra screws-if you bought from him i am sure he will send you some! Otherwwise i am not sure on what exact screw you would need.