Stupid question
Race Director
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Since garage door opener remotes and our fob's are are Radio Frequency transmitters and the garage door openers and the 'Vette are RF receivers it's possible. My '05 was very sensitive to RF, some Cell towers, Bank drive-thru's and some gas stations would trigger the "no fob detected" msg.
RF is strange, the frequency doesn't have to match to cause interference.
RF is strange, the frequency doesn't have to match to cause interference.
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It is theoretically possible given a very improbable set of additional circumstances but the GM engineers have been looking for such occurrences for years and, as far as I know, have never seen this or anything else even remotely common.
It's sort of like asking if a garage door opener can cause your computer to call up a particular web site. Not very likely though not physically impossible.
"No FOB detected" is very different from "FOB detected and it is asking me to turn on the computers".
It's sort of like asking if a garage door opener can cause your computer to call up a particular web site. Not very likely though not physically impossible.
"No FOB detected" is very different from "FOB detected and it is asking me to turn on the computers".
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If I read you question correctly, your computer is coming out of sleep mode when you open your garage door correct?
Is your computer above the garage? If so can the vibrations from the door opening cause the mouse to vibrate enough to move and wake up the computer?
Is your computer above the garage? If so can the vibrations from the door opening cause the mouse to vibrate enough to move and wake up the computer?
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For what its worth a friend of mine had this experience with his 2006 coupe. He moved to a new location with a garage with a door opener which was several years old. His fob worked very erratically at times, sometimes not locking/unlocking the car or opening the hatch, although it would always start once he got in the car. This only occured when it was parked in the garage under the opener. Anywhere else it worked correctly. Someone suggested to him to try it with the garage door opener unplugged. The result? He installed a newer opener and problem solved.
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bumps in the night
Yes it can. When leaving you shut the garage door and the RF signal is transmitted to the door's closer. The grinding of the screw awakens the ghost of Christmas past who is abiding in the guest room closet. Understanding you are leaving, the gladdened ghoul emerges to play Guitar Hero in your absence. The same on returning. The hum of the opener signals your ethereal tenant of your impending arrival. Hurrying to get in one last chord of Stairway to Heaven, the wispy Jimmy Page wannabe glides back to his haunting just in the nick of time. You enter and find the computer is on since it has yet to return to its timed out slumber. Odd things maybe missing from the fridge and pantry. They love sweet tea and Cheese Puffs. You may also find the TV has been mysteriously tuned to the Sy Fy channel if its been playing Lon Chaney movies.
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OK, I think your question is this:
You have a Corvette in the garage and you keep getting a dead battery. You are wondering if using the garage door opener from another car could be causing your Vette to "Wake Up" and increasing your occurrence of your DBS.
If this is true, then the answer is yes. Every time any kind of RF signal hits your car it checks to see if it is the signal to unlock the car. The car "Wakes Up" to check. If its your FOB, it stays awake. If its not your FOB, it goes back to sleep.
This is also why I tell people not to leave their keys hanging on a hook in the garage near the car.
You have a Corvette in the garage and you keep getting a dead battery. You are wondering if using the garage door opener from another car could be causing your Vette to "Wake Up" and increasing your occurrence of your DBS.
If this is true, then the answer is yes. Every time any kind of RF signal hits your car it checks to see if it is the signal to unlock the car. The car "Wakes Up" to check. If its your FOB, it stays awake. If its not your FOB, it goes back to sleep.
This is also why I tell people not to leave their keys hanging on a hook in the garage near the car.
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Yes it can. When leaving you shut the garage door and the RF signal is transmitted to the door's closer. The grinding of the screw awakens the ghost of Christmas past who is abiding in the guest room closet. Understanding you are leaving, the gladdened ghoul emerges to play Guitar Hero in your absence. The same on returning. The hum of the opener signals your ethereal tenant of your impending arrival. Hurrying to get in one last chord of Stairway to Heaven, the wispy Jimmy Page wannabe glides back to his haunting just in the nick of time. You enter and find the computer is on since it has yet to return to its timed out slumber. Odd things maybe missing from the fridge and pantry. They love sweet tea and Cheese Puffs. You may also find the TV has been mysteriously tuned to the Sy Fy channel if its been playing Lon Chaney movies.
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I was talking to a service writter about dead batteries and he mentioned that a customer was continually getting dead batteries and they said they traced it to his garage door opener. also another lived in a gated community and when the gate opened it woke his car up. Just info im passing on.
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OK, I think your question is this:
You have a Corvette in the garage and you keep getting a dead battery. You are wondering if using the garage door opener from another car could be causing your Vette to "Wake Up" and increasing your occurrence of your DBS.
If this is true, then the answer is yes. Every time any kind of RF signal hits your car it checks to see if it is the signal to unlock the car. The car "Wakes Up" to check. If its your FOB, it stays awake. If its not your FOB, it goes back to sleep.
This is also why I tell people not to leave their keys hanging on a hook in the garage near the car.
You have a Corvette in the garage and you keep getting a dead battery. You are wondering if using the garage door opener from another car could be causing your Vette to "Wake Up" and increasing your occurrence of your DBS.
If this is true, then the answer is yes. Every time any kind of RF signal hits your car it checks to see if it is the signal to unlock the car. The car "Wakes Up" to check. If its your FOB, it stays awake. If its not your FOB, it goes back to sleep.
This is also why I tell people not to leave their keys hanging on a hook in the garage near the car.
Additionally, I don't believe the C6 ever wakes up on its own just to check for unlock signals. I believe the "wake up"/ unlock verification is only performed when you *actively* request it, either through pressing the 'open' pad on the outside of the door, or by pressing a button on the fob. Just having the fob nearby doesn't do anything. My fob hangs within 6 feet of the car, every night, for the past 2 years... never an issue.
Cheers,
Kent
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I don't think this is quite correct. If you live in the city, your world is awash in RF signals 24/7. The car would literally never sleep if it was constantly waking up to check each one.
Additionally, I don't believe the C6 ever wakes up on its own just to check for unlock signals. I believe the "wake up"/ unlock verification is only performed when you *actively* request it, either through pressing the 'open' pad on the outside of the door, or by pressing a button on the fob. Just having the fob nearby doesn't do anything. My fob hangs within 6 feet of the car, every night, for the past 2 years... never an issue.
Cheers,
Kent
Additionally, I don't believe the C6 ever wakes up on its own just to check for unlock signals. I believe the "wake up"/ unlock verification is only performed when you *actively* request it, either through pressing the 'open' pad on the outside of the door, or by pressing a button on the fob. Just having the fob nearby doesn't do anything. My fob hangs within 6 feet of the car, every night, for the past 2 years... never an issue.
Cheers,
Kent
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I don't think this is quite correct. If you live in the city, your world is awash in RF signals 24/7. The car would literally never sleep if it was constantly waking up to check each one.
Additionally, I don't believe the C6 ever wakes up on its own just to check for unlock signals. I believe the "wake up"/ unlock verification is only performed when you *actively* request it, either through pressing the 'open' pad on the outside of the door, or by pressing a button on the fob. Just having the fob nearby doesn't do anything. My fob hangs within 6 feet of the car, every night, for the past 2 years... never an issue.
Cheers,
Kent
Additionally, I don't believe the C6 ever wakes up on its own just to check for unlock signals. I believe the "wake up"/ unlock verification is only performed when you *actively* request it, either through pressing the 'open' pad on the outside of the door, or by pressing a button on the fob. Just having the fob nearby doesn't do anything. My fob hangs within 6 feet of the car, every night, for the past 2 years... never an issue.
Cheers,
Kent
Back in '05 this was sincerely looked into and ruled out in our quest for answers to DBS. DBS, or 'dreaded battery syndrome', as named right here on this forum, can only occur in '05 MN6 cars. (And just a few early '06's, that were dying from a different reason.)
So if you're getting unexplained and sudden dead battery conditions, and your car is not one of the above years and trannies, then you don't have actual DBS. You either have a dying battery, or a current drain somewhere.
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Thanks for all the replies.The car is an 05 mn6 with 9,650 miles
I am on my 5th battery(3 Delco & 2 Optima yellow top).
This car has gone dead with a Diehard battery tender hooked up to it.
I left it at the dealership all last week for so many times I have lost count.They brought the subject of the door opener or different fob.
I know it can't a different fob.I thought it was a bunch of dealership
horsehockey.Drove the car home Friday morning used it to open
the garage door.When I closed the door it went crazy(door crashed
into the opener).I spent about 30 minutes trying to adjust the door
with no luck.I had to pickup my other car at the deakership and when
I got home my hatch was open.The 2nd time in the last month.The
fob both times was in the house as far away from the car as I can
keep them.Again Thanks for your time.
I am on my 5th battery(3 Delco & 2 Optima yellow top).
This car has gone dead with a Diehard battery tender hooked up to it.
I left it at the dealership all last week for so many times I have lost count.They brought the subject of the door opener or different fob.
I know it can't a different fob.I thought it was a bunch of dealership
horsehockey.Drove the car home Friday morning used it to open
the garage door.When I closed the door it went crazy(door crashed
into the opener).I spent about 30 minutes trying to adjust the door
with no luck.I had to pickup my other car at the deakership and when
I got home my hatch was open.The 2nd time in the last month.The
fob both times was in the house as far away from the car as I can
keep them.Again Thanks for your time.