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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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All of a sudden my fob stopped opening and starting the car (06). All of the buttons work (unlock, lock, hatch, alarm) but the DIC says no fob recognized. Put fob in glove box slot, started right up. Got home and the wife's fob didn't work either (same symptoms). Bought new fob battery, replaced it, no change.

I tried to reprogram the fob per the owner's manual, but turning the rear key 5 times in less than 5 seconds did nothing. Nothing shows up on the DIC, just blank (supposed to give me a programming message).

HELP! This is my DD...

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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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Mine has just started doing this in the last week or so, figured the battery was getting weak, just havnt gotten around to changing it out though, maybe not the case now. Mines an 05. Waiting to here some other input now.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Mine also, it's a 2005
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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If you haven't replaced the FOB battery, why not do it? You're due - -or close to being due and it may solve your problem. My `05 was a Duracell CR 2032 . a 2 pack's about $5-6 at Walgreens, CVS, etc . .

Just pry the fob open with a thin flat blade . . watch your fingers if using a knife !. . .( don't ask how I know . . . .)
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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That is the one major scary problem with sophisticated electronic systems. Lets hope it's something to do with the FOB and not something else. I do enjoy the FOB system but dread to think if something goes wrong. There is still something to be said for the old tried and true key system.

Keep us posted as to how the problem is finally resolved...

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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Replaced mine yesterday still f-ing with me, sometimes it works other time snot, and only 1 TPMS is reading.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Gio
All of a sudden my fob stopped opening and starting the car (06). All of the buttons work (unlock, lock, hatch, alarm) but the DIC says no fob recognized. Put fob in glove box slot, started right up. Got home and the wife's fob didn't work either (same symptoms). Bought new fob battery, replaced it, no change.

I tried to reprogram the fob per the owner's manual, but turning the rear key 5 times in less than 5 seconds did nothing. Nothing shows up on the DIC, just blank (supposed to give me a programming message).

HELP! This is my DD...

Thanks,
Don
Since the fob would start the car when put in the glove box slot, there was nothing wrong with its programming. It just couldn't receive and transmit to the car on its own. Replacing the battery with a GOOD replacement battery (installed right side up) should have fixed it.

So, either the replacement battery was bad (quite possible), or you installed it backwards (uh oh, that'll fry the fob), or since the wife's fob doesn't work either, the car's fob antennas may have shorted out. (We know the RCDLM still works because the fob would start the car from the glove box slot. That leaves the antennas as possible culprits in the car.)

In any event, you're heading down the wrong road with your attempt at reprogramming. If you aren't careful, you're going to wind up with a car that you can't start in any fashion. First try another battery. Make sure it is a fresh battery. Make sure you put it in the right way. If that doesn't work, check out the car's antennas in the door jams which normally interrogate the fob when you access a door membrane switch to open the door. Look for a short or a break in the wire.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Probably RF interference at the receiver. I have a small area in the garage where the fobs won't work, sometimes they won't even work in the glove box slot. After I push the car a foot or two forward or back it starts right up.
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My FOB will become intermittent when I have my cell phone on my belt above the FOB in my pocket. Check for that as well.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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The guys saying RFI have a good point. Have you left your cell charger plugged into the car? How about any other electronics? A RF noise source in the car, or on your person, can definitely prevent the fob and car from communicating.

Again, the fact the fob will work in the glove box slot tells us the fob and the car's RCDLM are fine. Dead fob battery, broken car antenna, or RF interference are all possible causes of your problem.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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My wife and I discussed the problem and she reminded me that after starting the car this morning (normally with the fob in my pocket) we started hearing a clicking noise that sounded like it was behind the center vent. The noise stayed a block or two before stopping. This morning was the last time it acted normally.

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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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You could try disconnecting the battery to reset everything.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Gio
All of a sudden my fob stopped opening and starting the car (06). All of the buttons work (unlock, lock, hatch, alarm) but the DIC says no fob recognized. Put fob in glove box slot, started right up. Got home and the wife's fob didn't work either (same symptoms). Bought new fob battery, replaced it, no change.

I tried to reprogram the fob per the owner's manual, but turning the rear key 5 times in less than 5 seconds did nothing. Nothing shows up on the DIC, just blank (supposed to give me a programming message).

HELP! This is my DD...

Thanks,
Don
Ok, here we go. Had the same experience and figured it out.

1. Take your key FOBS to the next county, meaning so far away from the car its sickening...far far and I mean far away... did I say FAR.... Also get rid of any cell phones.... get them far away as well.

Ok...

2. Open the drivers door - leave open 20 minutes
3. After 20 minutes, do the key thing in the back - 5 times/5 secs

Your display should ask you to put FOB1 into the car - run and get your FOB and proceed with the program

This set of instructions will reprogram the FOBS from scratch.

I tried like every combination imaginable prior to this and this worked.

Good Luck.

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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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As soon as your Fob battery get week change it immediately. If you don't the car will get confused.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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A couple weeks ago, my 2005 started having the same problems - "fob not detected" etc. I changed out fob battery and still problems. Turns out the car battery was on its last breath. The OEM batteries in 2005-2006 cars may be getting old and summer heat can take its toll - check it out. A new car battery solved my problems.
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Originally Posted by BillH2121
A couple weeks ago, my 2005 started having the same problems - "fob not detected" etc. I changed out fob battery and still problems. Turns out the car battery was on its last breath. The OEM batteries in 2005-2006 cars may be getting old and summer heat can take its toll - check it out. A new car battery solved my problems.

A New Fresh battery should be considered a mod in these cars. I had to change out a battery in my 08 due to a dead cell. Had a lot of misc minor problems prior. It's amazing how many problems a new battery can cure.
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Originally Posted by RLSebring
A New Fresh battery should be considered a mod in these cars. I had to change out a battery in my 08 due to a dead cell. Had a lot of misc minor problems prior. It's amazing how many problems a new battery can cure.


It might be time for a new (car) battery.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Going for a new battery tonight, about time anyway! Hopefully this will clear it up.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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My 05 did the same thing to me yesterday. Got out of car, went in store, came out, no FOB detected. I put a new battery in FOB about 2 months ago. Sat for a few minutes, car started. Maybe too many cell phones in the area. No other problems and hasn't done it since. Go figure. I may need to look into a new car battery also if it does it again.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Gio
Going for a new battery tonight, about time anyway! Hopefully this will clear it up.
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look at the age of most all the cars being posted as having the problem. me thinks its time for a battery as well! these cars do extremely weird things when the battery starts to near its life's end. be sure to post up the results once you install the new "heart".
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