PAL - Iphone charging issue
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PAL - Iphone charging issue
In my review of aftermarket Ipod adapters, I found that some of them were not designed to charge the new generation of Ipods and Iphones. This is because the older Ipods used a 12 volt system and the new ones are charged with 5 volts.
But there are a number of charging adapters out there that work to convert the 12 volts to 5 volts, made just for the new Ipods and Iphones. Here is one:
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=1337
And another:
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Chargi...8843275&sr=8-1
But one owner just wrote to me and advised his new G3 Iphone will not charge with the PAL and the iS710 (Revolt). At this point we don't know whether it is just defective or whether there is an incompatibility for some reason.
Has anyone yet successfully charged a new generation Ipod or Iphone with the PAL and one of these charging adapters?
This would be very useful information for other owners.
Ray
But there are a number of charging adapters out there that work to convert the 12 volts to 5 volts, made just for the new Ipods and Iphones. Here is one:
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=1337
And another:
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Chargi...8843275&sr=8-1
But one owner just wrote to me and advised his new G3 Iphone will not charge with the PAL and the iS710 (Revolt). At this point we don't know whether it is just defective or whether there is an incompatibility for some reason.
Has anyone yet successfully charged a new generation Ipod or Iphone with the PAL and one of these charging adapters?
This would be very useful information for other owners.
Ray
Last edited by kawal; Jul 29, 2009 at 12:55 AM.
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Hi Ray, I was concerned about this myself but another member posted to one of the PAL threads, I don't recall who right now, this exact issue. He also listed a website from Apple the lists the chargng protocol for each iPod. It seems as though some of the new iPods will in fact support Firewire therefore charge those iPods. For instance, the iPod Classic 120G, which I have does support Firewire. I plugged it into my wifes Mercedes that has a factory iPod adapter and it seemed to charge ok. My question is that if Firewire is 12V, won't it cause problems if the iPod is designed for 5V?
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Hi Ray, I was concerned about this myself but another member posted to one of the PAL threads, I don't recall who right now, this exact issue. He also listed a website from Apple the lists the chargng protocol for each iPod. It seems as though some of the new iPods will in fact support Firewire therefore charge those iPods. For instance, the iPod Classic 120G, which I have does support Firewire. I plugged it into my wifes Mercedes that has a factory iPod adapter and it seemed to charge ok. My question is that if Firewire is 12V, won't it cause problems if the iPod is designed for 5V?
Since I don't have a new Iphone, I can't verify any of these work, unfortunately.
Ray
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I had the same problem with my LOCKPICK. With the adapter my iPhone charges while plugged up... Not GM/ the LOCKPICK's fault, blame Apple. They do stuff like(change hardware/ software) that to block out accessory vendors they don't pay a ransom(aka license fee) to them to hook things up to an iPod/ iPhone
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It sounds like the iS710, and likely others that are similar, will charge the new Iphones with the PAL.
It also sounds like a few people have received some defective charging adapters as well. So it pays to check.
Ray
It also sounds like a few people have received some defective charging adapters as well. So it pays to check.
Ray
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In my review of aftermarket Ipod adapters, I found that some of them were not designed to charge the new generation of Ipods and Iphones. This is because the older Ipods used a 12 volt system and the new ones are charged with 5 volts.
But there are a number of charging adapters out there that work to convert the 12 volts to 5 volts, made just for the new Ipods and Iphones. Here is one:
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=1337
And another:
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Chargi...8843275&sr=8-1
But one owner just wrote to me and advised his new G3 Iphone will not charge with the PAL and the iS710 (Revolt). At this point we don't know whether it is just defective or whether there is an incompatibility for some reason.
Has anyone yet successfully charged a new generation Ipod or Iphone with the PAL and one of these charging adapters?
This would be very useful information for other owners.
Ray
But there are a number of charging adapters out there that work to convert the 12 volts to 5 volts, made just for the new Ipods and Iphones. Here is one:
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=1337
And another:
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Chargi...8843275&sr=8-1
But one owner just wrote to me and advised his new G3 Iphone will not charge with the PAL and the iS710 (Revolt). At this point we don't know whether it is just defective or whether there is an incompatibility for some reason.
Has anyone yet successfully charged a new generation Ipod or Iphone with the PAL and one of these charging adapters?
This would be very useful information for other owners.
Ray
Last edited by k7kz; Jul 29, 2009 at 09:17 PM.
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I have the iSimple and it charges a new iPOD Classic (120 Gb). We tried an iPhone 3G and it did not charge. I have an iPhone 3GS coming and will try it once it is in my hot little hands (looks like a couple of weeks at this point)
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Has anybody tried the PAL with a new iPod Classic to see if it charges without a charging adapter? There was a post a while ago that said that the Classic and a few others would charge.
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for right now, It will not charge any of the 5 volt devices...
Last edited by Audiogeek; Jul 30, 2009 at 08:35 PM.
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What - me worry?
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Yes, I have and it does. I have used an 80 GB unit and a newer 160 GB unit and both charge just fine without any adapters.
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Thanks for the info. I heard that so I tried my 120GB Classic on my wife’s Mercedes that has no charging adapter and it appeared to charge. I'm installing the PAL this weekend. Audiogeek says no so I didn't think it would on the PAL.
