toxin440

I will just say that if you have ever driven (willfully) 1mph over the limit, than your entire argument is invalid. I've never personally had a problem with cops because if i get pulled over for speeding/plates, I don't get all bent out of shape and try to come up with a retarded excuse or "talk" my way out of it.

The problem is obeying something designed simply to give cops a reason to pull you over and make you pay money. If cities need more money, raise taxes, cut the budget fat, americans on the whole are very tires of getting nickle and dimed.

There are a host of dumb laws, that prove JUST how jacked up our government can be. Will YOU follow all of these to the letter?

http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/texas

I don't know the validity of each of these, but I find it very easy to believe they are on the books somewhere.

johnodrake

My solution was to move to a one plate state.... End of issue

gatti-man

Another LEO with an attitude. Suprise, suprise.

4thC4at60

I often wonder just how it is that folks get to pick and choose which laws they will obey?

(Not a LEO, just 22 years Navy and almost 70 years a citizen.)

BigJoe

I take it you have never been caught in Sherman TX. $150 fine and they hope that you didn't fix it so they can give you another ticket later. They never even ask if its been fixed.

Lots of small towns in TX are like that. In the big cities and most expressways you are OK, unless they can get you for something else at the same time.

I run a front plate all the time. Been pulled over a half dozen times and they ALWAYS check to see if you have the plate by walking around the front.

TXC6Z51

So far I've gotten one warning in the vette for no front plate from a DPS down in Alpine(along with warnings for speeding and the window tint). As far as I'm concerned it will never have a front plate, if they want to write me a ticket that's fine I'll pay it and go about my business.




And sometimes I speed and don't wear my seat belt either.

gatti-man

Really? So you have never had a speeding ticket? Ever crossed the street without a crosswalk? Some laws are needless and wasteful. This is one of them. IMO it is anti freedom and groundless. Therefore I choose to put my plate secured behind my windshield. I wish I didn't have one at all. I'm not a criminal and should not be treated as such.

Being law doesn't make it right. Laws are struck down and modified all the time. Think about it.

Bill Dearborn

They used to have laws that stated every time a car came to an intersection somebody had to get out of the car and walk in front of it with a lantern as it went through the interesection. This supposedly kept horses from being scared by the cars. Some of those laws were on the books in various states into the 1970s. I wonder how many people obeyed those laws in the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s?

Bill

AroundMyHorn

If the law is substantial, why doesn't every state enforce it? Front license plates FTL.

GOLD72

You sir have been here for quite a long time!!

GOLD72

Not an issue until HPD pulls you over. You are correct about DPS. DPS has become even more **** about front license plate violations by writing citations and not just warning tickets anymore. About HPD, my son got a 10 over laser speeding ticket in his 08 vette from HPD a year ago on the SWF 59. LEO was nice and wondered why my son didn't see him and slow down. My son was polite but the LEO added a no front license plate citation to the speeding ticket just for an extra measure of fun.

GOLD72

Too many people I know were getting no front plate tickets last year so I decided to not press my over 8 years of luck any further. I bought the Top Flight Repro brackets for my Z and wife's vert. I don't simply think about it anymore.

Django696

I got pulled over a few years ago driving my Kenworth(large car) in a small village on Long Island for not having a rear plate. Big tractors are only issued one plate for the front except two states, one being NY. I was bobtailing to get something to eat when he stopped me.. He would not belive I did not have to display one. He started to write me up and I told him he should check via his radio about the law while I went into a deli to eat. When I came out he gave me back my lic & reg and said sorry. Some LEO's will look for anything to write you a summons

HoustonTX

Actually, I beg to differ with you on the hindering view statement. I did not show the entire court ruling due to the size of it, however the state did argue that actual point. This is what the ruling on that issue was:

The State also argues, as it did below, that the evidence shows a violation of transportation code section 502.409(a)(5) and (7), which at the time in question prohibited the display of a license plate that "has letters, numbers, or other identification marks that because of blurring matter are not plainly visible at all times during daylight" or that "has a coating, covering, or protective material that distorts angular visibility or detectability." Act of May 30, 1999, 76th Leg., R.S., ch. 1189, § 17, 1999 Tex. Gen. Laws 4153, 4161 (Tex. Transp. Code Ann. § 502.409(a)(5), (7), since amended). The State refers to Drozd's testimony that he could not read Losoya's license plate because of the glare of the sun on the windshield.

There is no evidence that the letters and numbers on Losoya's front license plate were blurred, obscured, or otherwise unreadable because any material on either the plate or the windshield. We do not believe that sunlight can reasonably be considered to be "blurring matter." There is also no evidence that the windshield distorted angular visibility or detect ability. We find no basis in this record for reasonably suspecting a violation of section 502.409(5) or (7). We overrule the State's first issue or point of error.

HoustonTX

I agree with you about the law being garbage -

As far as motorcycles, they are only required to have one plate.

Originally I did not print the entire law due to size, but here it is...

Sec. 502.404. OPERATION OF VEHICLE WITHOUT LICENSE PLATE OR REGISTRATION INSIGNIA.(a) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a
registration period a passenger car or commercial motor vehicle that does not display two
license plates, at the front and rear of the vehicle, that have been:
(1) assigned by the department for the period; or
(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the department that establishes that
the vehicle is registered for the period.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a
registration period a passenger car or commercial motor vehicle, other than a vehicle assigned
license plates for the registration period, that does not properly display the registration insignia
issued by the department that establishes that the license plates have been validated for the
period.
(c) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a public highway during a
registration period a road tractor, motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does not display a
license plate, attached to the rear of the vehicle, that has been:
(1) assigned by the department for the period; or
(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the department that establishes that
the vehicle is registered for the period.
(d) Subsections (a) and (b) do not apply to a dealer operating a vehicle as provided by law.
(e) An offense under this section is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200.
(f) A court may dismiss a charge brought under Subsection (a) if the defendant:
(1) remedies the defect before the defendant's first court appearance; and
(2) pays an administrative fee not to exceed $10.
(g) A court may dismiss a charge brought under Subsection (b) if the defendant:
(1) shows that:
(A) the passenger car or commercial motor vehicle was issued a registration
insignia by the department that establishes that the vehicle was registered for
the period during which the offense was committed; and
(B) the registration insignia described in Paragraph (A) was attached to the
passenger car or commercial motor vehicle before the defendant's first court
appearance; and
(2) pays an administrative fee not to exceed $10.
Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
Amended by: Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 1027, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2007.

z06clif

I recieved 2 tickets in 2 weeks for no front plate BY THE SAME COP. He really took a liking to me. told me I was a slow learner.I told him he was SLOW also I now run the front plate. Its a very expensive hobby. (no front plate) . MORAL OF THE STORY NEVER ARGUE WITH A GUY WITH A PEN. Youll run out of money before he runs out of ink.

Clif

dgrant3830

So, go to the LEO's personal parking lot where they put their own vehicles and start taking pictures of all the cars in there without front plates then when you are in front of the Judge, show them the pictures.

VipersRnotVettes

Do any cold weather states have seasonal plates, where they are good from say April 1-Oct 31, and only require a rear plate?
I live in a province that this is the case, thus never need a front plate.
Since I put the car away from Nov1-March 31 each year, there is no issues.

H-TOWNC6

I've been taking my chances too with no front plate. I'll worry about it when the time comes..........if ever.

gatti-man

If I get ticketed locally I will fight it, if ticketed out of town I will pay it. Im not putting holes in my car. The c5 looks ok with a plate the c6 looks horrible with a front plate. It would be like running a front plate on a viper or 911, hell no.