MGW Installed
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MGW Installed
Put my MGW shifter in the car over the weekend and wow, night and day difference!!! I only made it about 150 miles with the stock setup. It was easy as can be to install, only took about 25 mins start to finish. It was a little bit of a pain getting the stock handle positioned since it almost is completley reasembled when you get the **** on. I didn't realize till i recieved it that I ran that shifter and a couple of their accessories on my viper and loved it on that car. Great shifting unit and highly reccommended.
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What year is your C6? I have heard that there's not much of an improvement on 09+ vehicles with the MGW but I haven't been able to get anybody to tell me after they put one in a 09+ C6.
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Been waiting to get the GM front console to replace the stock but it's taking a while. Might just get the MGW anyway and worry about the other crap later. Only other thing is they'd put it in for me if I drive to Augusta (about a 2+ hr. trip each way though). We'll see.
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Been waiting to get the GM front console to replace the stock but it's taking a while. Might just get the MGW anyway and worry about the other crap later. Only other thing is they'd put it in for me if I drive to Augusta (about a 2+ hr. trip each way though). We'll see.
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It wouldnt do anything to the warranty. An aftermarket part has to be directly related to the failure for them to be able to deny it(i.e if you put a blower on the car they can't deny a faulty shock). All the short throw does is change the pivot point of the shift lever
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Shortens it and its "notchier" for a more positive feel going through the gears. Ive changed the shifters in every sports car ive owned. Money well spent for sure. Ive always went with B&M rippers, but I think im gonna try MGW on my 09.
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OMG is the MGW really that good? why is everybody raving about it. I have an 08 and to me the stock shifter seems pretty awesome.. Is there anybody in houston, tx who has one and willing to let me TRY IT!!! ill buy you lunch!
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If you have transmission problems following the installation of a short throw shifter, you could be looking at an out of pocket expense to cover the repairs to your transmission.
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I have to disagree with you because the short throw doesnt change any of the functions in/of the transmission. it is just changing the pivot point on a shaft which you could techniclly be done to a stock unit. Now i'm not saying that you might run into a service advisor thats a bit of a dick and doesnt really know what he's talking about and try to give you a hard time about it. But when the smoke settles it is very simple to prove impossible that a short throw shifter can or could cause tranny damage by itself.
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It wouldnt do anything to the warranty. An aftermarket part has to be directly related to the failure for them to be able to deny it(i.e if you put a blower on the car they can't deny a faulty shock). All the short throw does is change the pivot point of the shift lever
GM is officially (via TSB's to the dealers) denying warranty claims for engine work on any car with an aftermarket tune. If you tuned your car to have the fan kick on at a lower temperature, you can make the argument that the engine running cooler couldn't have contributed to any engine failure. But GM can make the claim that the tune changed the operating parameters of the car, which can lead to the specific failure. While they make the claim, they deny the warranty.
If you swap out your shifter, and the transmission fails, it is quite possible that GM would not honor warranty claims, unless you forced them to, buy winning a court case. Magnussen Moss provides that the warranty can't be denied if the failure wasn't related to the modifications - but it's always a matter of who is able to prove whether it was related or not.
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It's not a matter of the dealer's sevice writer being a dick - it's whether or not the dealer thinks GM may decide they have a valid reason to not honor the claim. The dealer doesn't pay for the work, they perform the work and GM pays. If GM says they won't pay, the dealer won't do it. GM is taking a very aggressive stance in denying certain warranty claims these days.
Aftter all the smoke settles, you may be out $$$$ in lawyers fees to try to prove GM has to honor your claim.
BTW - just because you could technically do the same to the stock unit, that doesn't mean anything for warranty claims. You could seal off all of the air intakes on the car by realigning the body panels... GM wouldn't fix problems when your engine melts down!
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But the short throw, and a change to the pivot point, could change the geometry of the linkage, which could apply more/less pressure to other parts of the transmission, in which case, you've just given GM reason to denyyour warranty claim.
It's not a matter of the dealer's sevice writer being a dick - it's whether or not the dealer thinks GM may decide they have a valid reason to not honor the claim. The dealer doesn't pay for the work, they perform the work and GM pays. If GM says they won't pay, the dealer won't do it. GM is taking a very aggressive stance in denying certain warranty claims these days.
Aftter all the smoke settles, you may be out $$$$ in lawyers fees to try to prove GM has to honor your claim.
It's not a matter of the dealer's sevice writer being a dick - it's whether or not the dealer thinks GM may decide they have a valid reason to not honor the claim. The dealer doesn't pay for the work, they perform the work and GM pays. If GM says they won't pay, the dealer won't do it. GM is taking a very aggressive stance in denying certain warranty claims these days.
Aftter all the smoke settles, you may be out $$$$ in lawyers fees to try to prove GM has to honor your claim.
I'm sure we could run circles around this untill blue in the face. GM has the potential to make anything very expensive to prove that what they say is not true. I guess the advice that i will end with is if you do a mod, make sure you understand how it works when its replacing a stock unit. In the example of the shifter, have the knowledge to confront them that even though your throw on the shift lever is less than stock, the distance of throw and the stresses put on the factory linkage is identical to that of the stock unit. And remember that even if you do one mod and lose warrantable status on that particular part of the car that does not mean that the whole vehicle is now not covered under warranty