Emission Question
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I don't think that there have been two different emission standards for a long time --- I might be wrong (its happened before).......but what you are describing is two different names for the same thing....
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LS2 C6's were 50 states I think...The LS3 went back to separate emissions..it's either federal or Calif. New federal cars can't be sold in Cali until they have enough miles on them to be officially considered used. there has been speculation that the engine control calibrations are different- which they probably are, but along the lines of a torque or power difference in the mid range.
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The Feds have a standard, but some states (like California), adopt stricter standards. Therefore, a car can meet Fed standards but not a certain state's standards. A 50-state car is self-explanatory, isn't it?
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My car is in Missouri and the question is from someone from California interested in purchasing my car. He wants to know if it will meet their emission standards. The car only has 1,200 miles on it. I thought there might be a sticker under the hood, but cannot locate anything that clarifys. Hoping the forum can help.
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My car is in Missouri and the question is from someone from California interested in purchasing my car. He wants to know if it will meet their emission standards. The car only has 1,200 miles on it. I thought there might be a sticker under the hood, but cannot locate anything that clarifys. Hoping the forum can help.
-you can bring it in if it has 7500 miles on it.
- I also can tell you that he won't have to pay taxes on it if he registers and owns it in another state for 12 months and a day first.
- you could do what people do and pretend you have it somewhere else and pray you don't get pulled over until you reach that 7500 mile threshold.
- let your out-of-state relative drive it for awhile.
-go ahead and just buy on here in CA
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I know that there is a tag on the car that is marked one way or the other, but I am not sure of the location. It would be my suggestion (which I always do when I don't know the answer) that perhaps you PM Talon 90. He knows EVERYTHING!!
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I replied to your PM but I thought I'd put it here as well. Unless anything has changed, Unfortunately, no the car will not be allowed to be registered in California. While all Corvettes are manufactured meet federal emissions minimum requirments for all 50 states there is additional buracracy at the state level. In order to get a car certified at the state level states have the ability to charge OEM's to gain certification to allow their cars to be sold in California. There are different RPO codes that will be added to the car for New England states and for California. RPO's are as follows:
FE9 is for Federal Emissions. All Corvettes manufactured for sale in other than California or New England States have this RPO.
NE1 is for New England States Emissions. All Corvettes manufactured for sale in CT/MA/ME/NY/PA/RI/VT
YF5 is the RPO that must be present for a vehicle to be legally sold in California.
Now, used vehicles can be brought in to California but they must have more than 7,500 miles as I recall.
It basically means that even though it has 50 state emissions certification, he won't be able to buy your car.
Paul
FE9 is for Federal Emissions. All Corvettes manufactured for sale in other than California or New England States have this RPO.
NE1 is for New England States Emissions. All Corvettes manufactured for sale in CT/MA/ME/NY/PA/RI/VT
YF5 is the RPO that must be present for a vehicle to be legally sold in California.
Now, used vehicles can be brought in to California but they must have more than 7,500 miles as I recall.
It basically means that even though it has 50 state emissions certification, he won't be able to buy your car.
Paul
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California = California
also the post above mention the option code for the emission calibration/package...you can always double check that as well.
Another question: Do the New England states accept the CA emissions? aren't they supposed to be the same? that would mean three different set-ups which seems kind of complicated to produce.
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US = Federal
California = California
also the post above mention the option code for the emission calibration/package...you can always double check that as well.
Another question: Do the New England states accept the CA emissions? aren't they supposed to be the same? that would mean three different set-ups which seems kind of complicated to produce.
California = California
also the post above mention the option code for the emission calibration/package...you can always double check that as well.
Another question: Do the New England states accept the CA emissions? aren't they supposed to be the same? that would mean three different set-ups which seems kind of complicated to produce.
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yeah, but a few bytes may be shuffled around in ROM..so there has to be a difference there. Made it kind of difficult to bring my Federal car from Oregon to Cali. Obviously GM did it because of an emissions difference, not because they wanted to inconvenience people.
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That's my point, GM DIDN'T do it, California does and they require GM to keep score. They collect a fee for new cars brought in to California and the way they keep track of them is via the RPO code which is identified by the label. Every Corvette that rolls off the line will pass emissions in California right off the end of the line in stock trim. Every Corvette.
