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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lander
And when you go in to get new tires, how will they do that? Magic?



Extending the analogy a bit, why did you spend all that money on a Corvette when an Aveo will get you there and back? Same difference.

Traction for one....... Do you really think a set of Eagle F1's provide the same kind of traction as say a drag radial? Are you going to try and say all tires provide the the same traction and wear as others

I'm not even going to touch the Aveo comment. If you want to try to put them on the same level as a corvette be my guess.

Make all the analogies you want. The fact is no one has yet given even the slightest argument how a $60 aluminum jacking puck is of better performance, quality, or whatever then a piece of wood or a peice of rubber in this case. I'm sorry if you guys that spent $60 got had.

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MCSSLT1
Traction for one....... Do you really think a set of Eagle F1's provide the same kind of traction as say a drag radial? Are you going to try and say all tires provide the the same traction and wear as others

I'm not even going to touch the Aveo comment. If you want to try to put them on the same level as a corvette be my guess.

Make all the analogies you want. The fact is no one has yet given even the slightest argument how a $60 aluminum jacking puck is of better performance, quality, or whatever then a piece of wood or a peice of rubber in this case. I'm sorry if you guys that spent $60 got had.
What the hell are you talking about? My point is regardless of your warranty being done and you'll never have GM look at your car, eventually it will need new tires and guess what? They'll have to lift your car.

Really? So you don't see the direct analogy between a Corvette simply being a mode of getting from point A to point B, which you can do just as easily in an Aveo? Are you really that thick? Because it's exactly why some purchase $60 metal lifting pucks instead of $1 hockey pucks...they both perform exactly the same task, just one costs a lot more and looks nicer.

I think it's pretty clear you don't have the ability to support your inane position...so I'll leave you be. Enjoy your bliss.
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Lander you totally missed the point I was trying to make. The best argument you made for the expensive pucks was that they look better. I will give you that.

No I am not that thick and no my position is not insane.

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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it seems the op's post got off track and he is getting talked down to which is not cool. He isnt saying "dont use anything,, you guys are dumb" he seems to be saying that some spend too much money when other options are out there
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MCSSLT1
Right well thats all im saying here. Hockey pucks are what $1 a piece? A 2x4 cut 3"-4" in length is something most people have around the house so its free.
well that true but my time is valuable too and I figured that by the time i spent running around getting parts to make a jacking puck, #1 I don't have a hockey puck laying around the house, or an I or t bolt so I would have to go get them my time, gas = $ so I bought a nice set that was made twice as thick as a puck so when it sat in the jack cup the cup does not touch the car, I am more suprized that you had a problem thinking this through on your own, that you had to post this, PLEASE post-up the next time your planning on driving your car, so I can get off the road, I would feel safer thanx

the point where the puck goes is the chain point for the transfer truck to chain the car down for transport, it just happens to make a great spot for jacking

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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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I purchased the hockey pucks (hard plastic or rubber) for my C5 and at the time they cost about $45 from Mid America. Instead of purchasing another set for my C6 this year, I found them for $25 on e-bay brand new and a different design. I carry a set in each corvette. The pucks are for jacking only, never use them with jack stands. I saw a C5 on a dealer's rack in Denver several years ago and the rack was in contact with the rocker panels. Don't know if there was damage, but needless to say, that dealer will never see my Corvettes. I prefer to carry the pucks in my car rather than pieces of wood.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Realistically you only need 2 pucks. When I jack the car up I use one puck by the rear wheel and I get the whole side of the car in the air. You can jack up on the trans and lift the whole rearend without any pucks at all... the only reason to have 4 is probably when a lift is used, but the mechanic at the dealer had jacking pucks because they have a dedicated vette guy.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Jacking pucks are cheap and easy to use, and fit in the little storage bins better than 2X4s.
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CMY SIX
I am more suprized that you had a problem thinking this through on your own, that you had to post this, PLEASE post-up the next time your planning on driving your car, so I can get off the road, I would feel safer thanx

How does this post about jacking pucks have anything to do with me driving my car and you feeling safer? Maybe I made this post just to see people get pissed off or maybe I did it just to give some people a few other ideas
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_Planet
You can jack up on the trans and lift the whole rearend without any pucks at all...
It would not be a good ideal to try and jack a corvette up by the trans. I assume you mean the rear craddle? My lift has round plastic pads that work perfect for lifting the vettes in the proper position.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:45 AM
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I realize this is an older post ... but there are a few points which are being overlooked ...

1) Neither rubber pucks, nor a block of wood have tensile strength. Neither one was engineered to lift the weight of a vehicle. Over time, both WILL crack / fail, and subject your car to damage by your jack. Who wants to risk danaging your rocker panels?

2) Rubber pucks and blocks of wood do not necessaily fit into the recessed area on the frame, and hence, wind up LIFTING the car with the rocker panel sandwiched in between the frame and hockey puck or block of wood. Again, it's just a matter of time before you are subjected to a cracked rocker.

3) Neither a rubber hockey puck, nor a block of wood are designed to lock in place on the frame. This means, you are not guaranteed the rubber hockey puck or block of wood is in the proper location. Again, you risk cracking the rocker panel.

4) If you use a rubber hockey puck, and drill it out for Home Depot hardware, you are causing undue stress on the hockey pucks, which will lead to premature stress fractures. In addition, the metal hardware will (at some point in time), scratch either your paint, or frame.

5) The use of steel jacking pucks is an albatross. They are way too heavy, and can scratch your paint or frame. Aluminum pucks are lighter, buy can still scratch. Plastic and delrin are lighter, but they are not resilient, and hence, do not seat (or "bite") into the jack.

6) On the other hand, locking POLYMER jacking pucks have high tensile strength ... provide *bite* into the jack, and do not scratch the paint or frame. Polymer pucks are about the same cost (+/-) as compared to other manufactured jacking pucks.

There are many ways to skin this animal. If you want to save money up front, and don't mind risking a failure (and rocker damage) ... go ahead and use a ice hockey puck or block of wood. However, the safest (locking) method, which also provides anti-slip measures (*bite*) comes down to Polymer jacking pucks. The best ones I have seen are sold on CF exclusively by Dennis, at Double D Mods (CF vendor). They are available for all C5's and C6's (including the Z06 - thought not sure about C6 ZR1).
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Eritosthenes
If the actual lifting surfaces on your jack or lift are small enough to fit inside the cutout areas in the rocker panels surrounding the C6 frame's designated jacking points, then you don't need jacking pucks.
I agree The pad on your jack may be padded but it might make contact with the rocker, and crack it. The puck, as best I recall, contacts only the frame rail and kind of locks in place with an attached chuck.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:10 AM
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Here is a reference that explains pucks, jacks, jacking points, and jacking technique:

http://www.bugmanweb.com/c6/c6index.html
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vetticus Victor
I agree The pad on your jack may be padded but it might make contact with the rocker, and crack it. The puck, as best I recall, contacts only the frame rail and kind of locks in place with an attached chuck.

In addition to the jacking puck ONLY touching the frame ... and aside from the jacking puck *locking* into place ... hydraulic floor jacks that do not have a similar size "pad" permanently secured to the jack are likely to slip (either the pad slips / or falls off ... then the metal jack hitting the undercarriage of the car will not be a good situation!
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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Yeah, and I made myself a set of wood ramps based on some info here instead of getting race ramps. I had the wood already so it was just labor.

Another guy made his own pair of wood ramps that would let you drive the whole car onto.

I know what you are saying: jacking pucks are silly because it takes nothing to do it yourself. I bought some pucks on recommendations on these forums for 35 bucks that snap in and stay locked. I don't think they were worth 35 but they do serve the purpose.

Life is about choices, I guess.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Vetticus Victor
Here is a reference that explains pucks, jacks, jacking points, and jacking technique:

http://www.bugmanweb.com/c6/c6index.html
I was just about to ask what these pucks were.... Thanks for the link.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MCSSLT1
I guess the guys that make their own are ok. A few hockey pucks and eye bolts are cheap. Those of you who are spending $60+ on these what are you thinking?
What! You spent $50k on a sports car! What are you thinking. You could have bought a used Civic. Didn't your mama teach you the value of a dollar?

Be sure to use 87 octane. That will save another 20 cents!

$60 is nothing, can't even eat out for that.

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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Don't know what all the fuss is about.
Jacking pucks are the greatest thing since sliced bread
Never leave home without 'em
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MCSSLT1
Just curious what the big deal is about jacking pucks. I see people here mention you need jacking pucks to jack up a corvette all the time. Hell some people even think they need to provide them to dealers when they have their car serviced. I did have one old craftsman jack that had a huge cup which might be tough. In that case I would have to use a block but that jack was so high it probably wouldn't fit under the car.

I understand some people have damaged their rockers and maybe this is why. What I don't understand is this. If you jack the car in the right spot there is plenty of clearance for the pads on a lift or for the cup on a jack.

Worst case scenario you can accomplish the same thing with a small 2x4 block which can be had for free.

I'm sorry but jacking pucks just seem like a scam to me. Are people that lazy that they can't jack a a car up properly these days or are they that gullible they really think jacking up a corvette can't be accomplished without these?

I guess the guys that make their own are ok. A few hockey pucks and eye bolts are cheap. Those of you who are spending $60+ on these what are you thinking?
I'm always amazed how surprized original posters are with the backlash that comes their way, when they use words like "lazy, gullible and what are you thinking" to all those scamed out there. Very entertaining!

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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Obviously you know why people use them. Your point seems to be why spend as much as $60 -$70 for something that could be achieved with as little as 4 pieces of 2x4's, or 4 hockey pucks. I think you can ask that question about many things we do. Why spend the extra money on anything when something cheaper can do almost as well. It boils down to personal choice although I know from personal experience that a peice of wood can easily slip and the jack slide. Then what?

The set of pucks cost me $17., too cheap to bother saving $10 to make them myself. The BMW pucks are relitively expensive, but they lock into place without ratteling when driving.

Ya pays your money or ya takes your chances. There are many places one can pick and choose to save money, my pucks are not one of them.
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