Stealth Laser Jammers
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Stealth Laser Jammers
Has anyone used the lift n hide (lnh) system that is marketed by A-Bond www.a-bond.com ?
I would like to install a set of LJ's in the front and maybe the rear of my C6. I drive alot in Minnesota and they are illegal there.
I don't want to have an anxeity attack if I am pulled over and the LEO starts snooping around the car.
It is my understanding LJ's cannot be hidden back in the grill to work effectively.
I would like to install a set of LJ's in the front and maybe the rear of my C6. I drive alot in Minnesota and they are illegal there.
I don't want to have an anxeity attack if I am pulled over and the LEO starts snooping around the car.
It is my understanding LJ's cannot be hidden back in the grill to work effectively.
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I would suggest the Blinder as it can be used as a parking sensor as well 
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Forget flipping them out of sight, on a black Vette they will never be seen and if they are tell them they are parking sensors. Both brands work great as parking sensors so it should not be a problem. The Blinder can be put in a dedicated parking sensor mode, the LI's have a preset time upon initial startup they are in parking sensor mode.
As long as you slow to PSL and kill the jammers he will never be the wiser. There are to many speeders out there for him to worry with why it took a few seconds to get a reading on a black Vette.
I have shot several black Vettes without jammers on them that I did not get a reading on. Black cars are hard for lidar to lock on to, and a black Vette is doubly hard. LEO's even believe Vettes are hard to lock onto.
Trust me, if they suspected anything funky I would have gotten pulled this past weekend. I took a rear PL3 hit at near triple digits and coasted (did not want to show brake lights and give the gig up) to PSL+3 before killing. Almost 3 full rounds of Prolaser 3 jamming sequence activated please slow down before he got a lock and he just shot the next guy coming down the road.
As long as you slow to PSL and kill the jammers he will never be the wiser. There are to many speeders out there for him to worry with why it took a few seconds to get a reading on a black Vette.
I have shot several black Vettes without jammers on them that I did not get a reading on. Black cars are hard for lidar to lock on to, and a black Vette is doubly hard. LEO's even believe Vettes are hard to lock onto.
Trust me, if they suspected anything funky I would have gotten pulled this past weekend. I took a rear PL3 hit at near triple digits and coasted (did not want to show brake lights and give the gig up) to PSL+3 before killing. Almost 3 full rounds of Prolaser 3 jamming sequence activated please slow down before he got a lock and he just shot the next guy coming down the road.
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Forget flipping them out of sight, on a black Vette they will never be seen and if they are tell them they are parking sensors. Both brands work great as parking sensors so it should not be a problem. The Blinder can be put in a dedicated parking sensor mode, the LI's have a preset time upon initial startup they are in parking sensor mode.
As long as you slow to PSL and kill the jammers he will never be the wiser. There are to many speeders out there for him to worry with why it took a few seconds to get a reading on a black Vette.
I have shot several black Vettes without jammers on them that I did not get a reading on. Black cars are hard for lidar to lock on to, and a black Vette is doubly hard. LEO's even believe Vettes are hard to lock onto.
Trust me, if they suspected anything funky I would have gotten pulled this past weekend. I took a rear PL3 hit at near triple digits and coasted (did not want to show brake lights and give the gig up) to PSL+3 before killing. Almost 3 full rounds of Prolaser 3 jamming sequence activated please slow down before he got a lock and he just shot the next guy coming down the road.
As long as you slow to PSL and kill the jammers he will never be the wiser. There are to many speeders out there for him to worry with why it took a few seconds to get a reading on a black Vette.
I have shot several black Vettes without jammers on them that I did not get a reading on. Black cars are hard for lidar to lock on to, and a black Vette is doubly hard. LEO's even believe Vettes are hard to lock onto.
Trust me, if they suspected anything funky I would have gotten pulled this past weekend. I took a rear PL3 hit at near triple digits and coasted (did not want to show brake lights and give the gig up) to PSL+3 before killing. Almost 3 full rounds of Prolaser 3 jamming sequence activated please slow down before he got a lock and he just shot the next guy coming down the road.
I would like a foot button something similar to the dimmer switch on older cars to kill the lj's and brake lights when that situation arrises.
A small red LED would remind me to reactivate normal driving with LJ's and brake lights.
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I would suggest the Blinder as it can be used as a parking sensor as well
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radar
I believe this has to do with the FAA & DHS.
There is a big difference between detecting radar and jamming it.
Laser jammers will disrupt the lidar and hopefully give the driver enough time to slow down.
I have heard stories of drivers being pulled over and the LEO discovering
lidar jammers in states where they are illegal. . The car being impounded
and the offending equipment being removed not so gently by their personnel and a hefty fine imposed.
The guys on this site :
://www.radardetector.net/forums/[/COLOR]
know everything there is to know about countermeasures.
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You have to use discretion when using a laser jammer in a state where it's not legal. Of course if you get caught you will pay.
I'm not telling you to break the law, but the Blinder does have a switch which turns it into a parking sensor. They suggest using this if/when you get pulled over.
They will ship units to states where it's not legal due to it being a parking sensor.
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Laser only. Like above jamming radar is illegal.
You have to use discretion when using a laser jammer in a state where it's not legal. Of course if you get caught you will pay.
I'm not telling you to break the law, but the Blinder does have a switch which turns it into a parking sensor. They suggest using this if/when you get pulled over.
They will ship units to states where it's not legal due to it being a parking sensor.
You have to use discretion when using a laser jammer in a state where it's not legal. Of course if you get caught you will pay.
I'm not telling you to break the law, but the Blinder does have a switch which turns it into a parking sensor. They suggest using this if/when you get pulled over.
They will ship units to states where it's not legal due to it being a parking sensor.
Has there been a GOL comparison between the M47 & LI?
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Both did very well but the consensus among all the testers was the LI was about 20% stronger than the M27. the old M25's were about 50% of the LI's, so they have made a significant improvement with the new X7 series.
Unless you have a large vehicle the X7 series Blinder is probably just as good as the LI.
I have convinced a LEO it's a parking sensor, but I did not jam him he just parked behind my car and we were talking cars. After about 30 minutes he finally noticed them and asked what they were. if used properly they will never know.
Only 1 lidar gun in use in the US gives jam codes and it gives jam codes for all kinds of things, wet streets cause it, bright lights, sun reflections, etc. It's so common to get a jam code as to be irrelevant. It's also only on the least used gun in the US, the Laser Atlanta. I own one and shoot it all the time, there's either 50% of the cars out there using jammers (not possible) or you get jam codes for anything.
If you are this paranoid about using them maybe they are not for you. If you stealth install them, they will not be effective anyway so you should just save your money.
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If you are this paranoid about using them maybe they are not for you. If you stealth install them, they will not be effective anyway so you should just save your money.
Point well taken. And yes I am paranoid. I will try figure out a trick way to retract those LJ's and still have them out where they will be useful while driving.
Point well taken. And yes I am paranoid. I will try figure out a trick way to retract those LJ's and still have them out where they will be useful while driving.
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A lot of people try to hide them behind mesh grilles or in out of the way places where they blend in out of sight. But without a clear view of the road, level and pointed straight down the road they are not effective. You get to the point where the stealth install has ruined the effectiveness of the jammer.
As for the OP I run them in a banned state every weekend, have been for 2 years. Never had a problem, never once has a single person even asked what they are and mine are far from stealth installed.
If You have ever seen them installed on a black car you have to look really hard to see them.
As for the OP I run them in a banned state every weekend, have been for 2 years. Never had a problem, never once has a single person even asked what they are and mine are far from stealth installed.
If You have ever seen them installed on a black car you have to look really hard to see them.
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Jammers
Go to the A-Bond site (see first post) and reference the 'lift-n-hide'
These are cool, BUT the LJ's do not protrude far enough out to utilize their full potential.
What is the difference between M27 & M47?
These are cool, BUT the LJ's do not protrude far enough out to utilize their full potential.
What is the difference between M27 & M47?
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27 is 2 heads and 47 is 4 heads. On cars 27 is front protection, 47 is front / rear protection.
