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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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I have a 2005 that has 23k on it, I'm noticing a knock on cold start that quites as it warms up but doesn't leave. did the old stick on the block trick and it seems the the noise is louder when it's on the water pump. Anyone had a similar problem?

All a quick update, dealer says it's a bearing or scuffed piston...engine needs to be pulled and taken apart for exact problem. URGH! It's under warranty so keeping my fingers crossed it's taken care of. Thanks for all your suggestions, I'll keep you updated should know more by Wednesday once it's out and apart.

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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Most likely piston slap.

It's more common on the gen3 engines. A quick fix is to change the engine oil with one that's a grade thicker. The noise should be reduced to a degree. The cold winter weather isn't helping with the piston to cylinder tolerance either; it's compounding the issue.

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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Mine did this also,traded it in @ 13K miles,no problems. My LS7 does not do this however
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This is VERY common problem, well not so much a problem as a annoyance. It's plain old Piston Slap. My LS1 has done it from the moment I bought my C5 six years ago. The good news is isn't a harmful sort of noise. Ah, and the only thing I've found that works is what a lot of guys at the 'Porsche fourm' have said, (Yes, Porsche engines have this problem too). Try a can of BG44K, I have found that if you pour it in and then fill your tank, the piston slap will be gone somewhere within 250 miles. How long it'll be till it returns is anyone's guess.

The problem is Premium fuel. Carbon build-up happens a lot faster with high-test 98 octane fuel than with 87 octane regular fuel. But using regular fuel in a LS2 Corvette is going to cause a real lack of performance. And I don't know about you, But I didn't buy a Corvette V8 to feed it Chevy Cavalier fuel.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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It happened on my '07 LS2 as well just a couple of weeks ago in very cold weather. I had the oil changed an hour later and it hasn't been heard since. This was all on a trip out to the midwest during the holiday.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by QUAKEJAKE
Mine did this also,traded it in @ 13K miles,no problems. My LS7 does not do this however
I'm sure the OP will find this most helpful...
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Totally normal...even with my Z06.

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I don't agree that its normal. Knocking of any kind just can't be good. Not sure what the real cause is, but I don't like it.
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What about the fuel injectors ticking? Could this be what the OP is referring too? Anyway I was told the injector noise was normal also :/ Its almost as embarrassing as squealing brakes!

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Originally Posted by Jimbeaux
I'm sure the OP will find this most helpful...
Just my way of saying that this is a common problem in the ls2 Jimbeaux. Just trying to help. As you know we are all Vette nuts here ,Right?
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Mine did this bc I had a broken spring, only found that out after removing the valve cover but a 15.00 fix and it was good as new...
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Being an 05, should the OP be checking the crankshaft pulley.

Search crank pulley for the tsb. Certian early 05's had to have the crank pulley pinned.

The VIN's are listed in some of the search results.

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99% its piston slap ... its not "good" , but just let the car warm up and it should be fine . I had it on my 07 , posted about three years ago about it and everyone thought I was nuts , now its coming up on some more LS2's .
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
I don't agree that its normal. Knocking of any kind just can't be good. Not sure what the real cause is, but I don't like it.
The LS series of engines have been doing this since 1997 with no issues so it isn't bad. My 97, 03Z, 08Z and my 03 Tahoe had or have cold engine piston slap. The Tahoe has 72K of hard towing miles on it and is still going strong.

You can make things be a lot worse if you try to fix things that aren't broken. Same goes for brake squeal.

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Originally Posted by svoshop
Being an 05, should the OP be checking the crankshaft pulley.

Search crank pulley for the tsb. Certian early 05's had to have the crank pulley pinned.

The VIN's are listed in some of the search results.

Mike
Doubt that is the issue here. That problem usually makes itself known with other noises; typically belt squeal/squeak or a squeaky pulley type sound.
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Originally Posted by Venomm
Mine did this bc I had a broken spring, only found that out after removing the valve cover but a 15.00 fix and it was good as new...
The Op said it is a slight 'knock' that he or she hears when the engine is cold and goes away as the engine is warmed up ? That my friend is Piston slap. And I reallly doubt ANY LSX engine doesn't have it at some point. Also there is a good chance he or she hears the injectors ticking or some slight valve train noise.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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I had a 05 Silverado 5.3L and it did it bad. It started a week after I purchased it and it went right back to the dealer. Something is definately wrong if its crazy loud knock.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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Yes it is really loud when you first start it, it quites down but never leaves...Dealer said today it has to come out and apart won't know until Wednesday what the outcome is. What was wrong with the silverado?
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This is VERY common problem, well not so much a problem as a annoyance. It's plain old Piston Slap. My LS1 has done it from the moment I bought my C5 six years ago. The good news is isn't a harmful sort of noise. Ah, and the only thing I've found that works is what a lot of guys at the 'Porsche fourm' have said, (Yes, Porsche engines have this problem too). Try a can of BG44K, I have found that if you pour it in and then fill your tank, the piston slap will be gone somewhere within 250 miles. How long it'll be till it returns is anyone's guess.

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Just left the dealer and had it examined, GM will not do anything about it, they cant eliminate the problem but deemed it unharmful.
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Common from time to time, goes away when hot. The most amazing thing is that it goes away when you turn the engine off!
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