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Last edited by 07c6vette; Jan 18, 2010 at 04:41 AM.
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One of my tires ran over a screw in the Carmax lot. For liability reasons they insisted on replacing it with a new tire (instead of plugging it) before I could take delivery.
The car drives fine with one new rear tire and the other with several thousand miles on it.
Last edited by brettbolt; Jan 18, 2010 at 05:31 AM.

anyway.. like the guys said, you can't repair that type of injury... get a new tire.
i just noticed a dent in the middle part of the wheel but not on the edges, can this still be balanced?
Last edited by 07c6vette; Jan 18, 2010 at 05:11 PM.
One of my tires ran over a screw in the Carmax lot. For liability reasons they insisted on replacing it with a new tire (instead of plugging it) before I could take delivery.
The car drives fine with one new rear tire and the other with several thousand miles on it.

i just noticed a dent in the middle part of the wheel but not on the edges, can this still be balanced?
i wont argue with you on the blow out...cause im a 1966 Radford HS grad...(howsit, brah?) .......LOL... but ....as a retired tire testing/engineer from the U.S. govt. of 30+ years, we would not classify that as a blow out....... just for the record.....
..........now.. for a blow out incident.. I offer the following write up :
Back in 1994, while I held the position of the Manager of Federal Tire Qualification Testing Program, I was lucky enough to be invited and attend a Michelin sponsored blow out training course held out in the desert at the Nevada Automotive Test Center in Silver Springs, Nevada. The course was a week long, hot and dusty, and worth every single second of it. I learned a lot of things about vehicle handling dynamics, and I learned not to fear a tire blow out by safely controlling a vehicle with a blown tire and bring it to a safe stop.What you are about to read here can save your life….I hope that you will pass this information on to friends, family, and anyone else you may feel might benefit from it. Memorize it…and tuck it neatly away in the back of your mind, but know its there…..so if you do have a blow out…..it jumps out without you having to “think” about it. There is no time to “think” when a tire blows out….it’s the first few seconds that are the most critical.Lets look at this “blow out” scene……and what’s really happening………
.Force Vector: There is a “force vector” which is present when your car is traveling down the road/highway….this “force vector” is a sum of the forward motion of the vehicle and the input of the forces driving the rear wheels (or front wheels). This force vector has variables….say your front end is out of alignment, this could cause a slight pull to one side, or, and under inflated tire, and misaligned frame from a previous accident (God forbid)…but…these variables are slight in nature. So…..this “force vector” is what makes your vehicle continue its motion in the forward direction, and is only altered by the steering input fed by the change in direction of the front tires………keeping in mind, if that steering change is TOO drastic, the force vector will overcome the change and cause skidding tires or center of gravity displacement…i.e.: rollover.The dreaded blow out (sudden air loss)……… when this occurs, you now have a new force vector, this force vector has been created by tremendous traction (rolling resistance) now being supplied by the blow tire…its “dragging” the front or rear of the vehicle to that side, the side of the blown tire. This force vector is at a 90 degree angle to that of the forward force vector that’s dictating the direction of the vehicle. Front tire blow outs are much worse than rear because it is “steering” the direction of the vehicle.So…What do you do?I’ll tell you what you don’t do first: Never…..Ever…….hit the brakes!Why? Remember that force vector I described above? If you hit the brakes, you are now drastically increasing that sideways force vector. Hitting the brakes when a blow out occurs is responsible for almost 95% of all crashes that occur during a blow out, especially roll-overs. Most all blow out crashes happen in the first few seconds of the blow out, especially front tire blow outs.
Let’s look at a rear tire blow out condition first: Ease your foot off the accelerator…ease… don’t just jerk your foot off the pedal…the engine compression and deceleration will add to much to that nasty force vector. The whole idea is that you are maintaining control and continuing in the same direction that you were before the blowout. The tire is not going to come off the rim, unless you just keep driving it down the road for a mile or more. When you can, steer over to the shoulder, if there is one, lightly and steadily applying the brakes until you come to a stop. That’s it.Ok.
The scary one, the worst blow out scenario, a front tire blow out:When a front tire blows out…the vehicle immediately begins to pull in the direction of the blow tire…..accelerate….. yes, your read correctly… accelerate! Only briefly though… Why? Because that increases that force vector of the direction you are going before the blowout…and allows you to get control of the vehicle and maintain course. It only takes a few seconds… depending on your particular vehicle and road conditions.
Now, I’m, not advocating stomping on the accelerator pedal if you are driving a Z06 Corvette with over 400HP!... However, if you are driving a fully loaded vehicle with a 150hp 4 cylinder, you may have to do that. You know your particular vehicles acceleration capabilities better than anyone. You must be the judge. Once you have control, then start doing the same thing you did with the rear wheel blow out till you are stopped.






Now imagine a front blowout on a motorcycle. I've had it happen.... twice. The first time I wasn't going fast enough to have a problem when I locked up front and back and slid to a stop. The second time I again managed to get stopped quickly but all thought of controlling the direction of travel was ignored in favor of just staying upright. Four wheels are so much simpler than 2.
i wont argue with you on the blow out...cause im a 1966 Radford HS grad...(howsit, brah?) .......LOL... but ....as a retired tire testing/engineer from the U.S. govt. of 30+ years, we would not classify that as a blow out....... just for the record.....
..........now.. for a blow out incident.. I offer the following write up :
Back in 1994, while I held the position of the Manager of Federal Tire Qualification Testing Program, I was lucky enough to be invited and attend a Michelin sponsored blow out training course held out in the desert at the Nevada Automotive Test Center in Silver Springs, Nevada. The course was a week long, hot and dusty, and worth every single second of it. I learned a lot of things about vehicle handling dynamics, and I learned not to fear a tire blow out by safely controlling a vehicle with a blown tire and bring it to a safe stop.What you are about to read here can save your life….I hope that you will pass this information on to friends, family, and anyone else you may feel might benefit from it. Memorize it…and tuck it neatly away in the back of your mind, but know its there…..so if you do have a blow out…..it jumps out without you having to “think” about it. There is no time to “think” when a tire blows out….it’s the first few seconds that are the most critical.Lets look at this “blow out” scene……and what’s really happening………
.Force Vector: There is a “force vector” which is present when your car is traveling down the road/highway….this “force vector” is a sum of the forward motion of the vehicle and the input of the forces driving the rear wheels (or front wheels). This force vector has variables….say your front end is out of alignment, this could cause a slight pull to one side, or, and under inflated tire, and misaligned frame from a previous accident (God forbid)…but…these variables are slight in nature. So…..this “force vector” is what makes your vehicle continue its motion in the forward direction, and is only altered by the steering input fed by the change in direction of the front tires………keeping in mind, if that steering change is TOO drastic, the force vector will overcome the change and cause skidding tires or center of gravity displacement…i.e.: rollover.The dreaded blow out (sudden air loss)……… when this occurs, you now have a new force vector, this force vector has been created by tremendous traction (rolling resistance) now being supplied by the blow tire…its “dragging” the front or rear of the vehicle to that side, the side of the blown tire. This force vector is at a 90 degree angle to that of the forward force vector that’s dictating the direction of the vehicle. Front tire blow outs are much worse than rear because it is “steering” the direction of the vehicle.So…What do you do?I’ll tell you what you don’t do first: Never…..Ever…….hit the brakes!Why? Remember that force vector I described above? If you hit the brakes, you are now drastically increasing that sideways force vector. Hitting the brakes when a blow out occurs is responsible for almost 95% of all crashes that occur during a blow out, especially roll-overs. Most all blow out crashes happen in the first few seconds of the blow out, especially front tire blow outs.
Let’s look at a rear tire blow out condition first: Ease your foot off the accelerator…ease… don’t just jerk your foot off the pedal…the engine compression and deceleration will add to much to that nasty force vector. The whole idea is that you are maintaining control and continuing in the same direction that you were before the blowout. The tire is not going to come off the rim, unless you just keep driving it down the road for a mile or more. When you can, steer over to the shoulder, if there is one, lightly and steadily applying the brakes until you come to a stop. That’s it.Ok.
The scary one, the worst blow out scenario, a front tire blow out:When a front tire blows out…the vehicle immediately begins to pull in the direction of the blow tire…..accelerate….. yes, your read correctly… accelerate! Only briefly though… Why? Because that increases that force vector of the direction you are going before the blowout…and allows you to get control of the vehicle and maintain course. It only takes a few seconds… depending on your particular vehicle and road conditions.
Now, I’m, not advocating stomping on the accelerator pedal if you are driving a Z06 Corvette with over 400HP!... However, if you are driving a fully loaded vehicle with a 150hp 4 cylinder, you may have to do that. You know your particular vehicles acceleration capabilities better than anyone. You must be the judge. Once you have control, then start doing the same thing you did with the rear wheel blow out till you are stopped.

as for the dent, it's almost in the middle part of the wheel and not on the edges, would that still cause problem during balancing? i asked lex brodie's and was told it should be fine. i hope so. the michelins are expensive $549 each!!!
after the loud bang, i just applied the brakes slowly to stop the car. no vibration or wiggling of the tires occured, but i noticed the car was a little bit slant so i knew it was the tire but i was really scared by the loud bang. imagine a 4"x2" metal plate sliced into the tire also causing a slight dent inside the rim. how the heck it got inside the tire. i also have a scratch at the bottom part so i just touched it up.
Last edited by 07c6vette; Jan 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM.
Regarding the wheel dent... Sight unseen it's hard to know if it will cause balancing problems. Can you take a high-res photo of the dent showing its size and depth? If you can, I'd suggest sending it to a professional wheel repair and refinishing company for an expert consultation. One I know of is http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccsvcs.html. There are many others.
Regarding the wheel dent... Sight unseen it's hard to know if it will cause balancing problems. Can you take a high-res photo of the dent showing its size and depth? If you can, I'd suggest sending it to a professional wheel repair and refinishing company for an expert consultation. One I know of is http://www.wheelcollision.com/wccsvcs.html. There are many others.






The dent might someday progress into a crack, it would take a wheel expert to make that prediction and even he would simply be making a guess that was more educated than ours. However, it sounds like the dent is in an area with very low stress. If it doesn't have any sharp edges, I would just check it out each time you get a new tire.
The bigger issue is different tread depth on the two rear tires. That can cause a very slight but constant slipping of the positraction differential which produces excessive wear, and unequal tread can produce uneven braking. I don't know if there is an industry standard for difference between two (rear) tires, maybe Wolfdogs can help us out. Depending on how you drive; 6k miles could be virtually nothing or it could be 1/2 of the tread depth.
In a month, the only thing that should still remember this episode is your wallet...
Last edited by Gearhead Jim; Jan 19, 2010 at 01:22 PM.









