Turning everything on without starting engine?
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Racer
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Turning everything on without starting engine?
Is there a way to turn everything on, without starting the engine? In other words, not just accessory mode... but full mode where the gauges come on. I needed to use a scan tool the other day to clear a code for CAGS (fuse). It said to turn ignition on, but do NOT start the engine. I haven't read anywhere how to do this. Reluctantly I just went ahead and started the engine, and cleared the code with it running, but I figured there has got to be a way....?
Pro
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From: Ann Arbor MI
I've herd were if you floor the gas peddle while trying to start it, it will only turn over.
This is how some guys bring there cars out of hibernation after a winters sleep to prime the oil system.
Search for posts as I have never done it.
This is how some guys bring there cars out of hibernation after a winters sleep to prime the oil system.
Search for posts as I have never done it.
Drifting
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From: Lake Delton (WI Dells) WI
press down and HOLD in the start button. Instead of just pressing and releasing it to enter "accessory" mode, just keep holding it down until everything comes on. It will then turn everything on just like the car is when it's running, but without starting the engine.
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Racer
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Thanks guys! I appreciate it.
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '16-'17-'18
This does NOT turn "everything on". It only turns on those items powered by the "accessory position".
Items powered in "run" mode are NOT powered up by this method.
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Actually, if you hold the bottom part of the button for a few seconds, it does the same thing as trying to start the car without the clutch pedal pushed in...it turns the ignition to "on"...everything is on except the engine is not running....the equivalent of turning the key to the "run" position without cranking the engine on an old fashioned car that uses a metal key.
From page 201 of my 2007 manual...
"Press the bottom of the Acc. button on
the instrument panel and hold the button down for
five seconds. The instrument panel, including the
check engine light, will light up and the ignition will
be on, but the engine will not start—"
From page 201 of my 2007 manual...
"Press the bottom of the Acc. button on
the instrument panel and hold the button down for
five seconds. The instrument panel, including the
check engine light, will light up and the ignition will
be on, but the engine will not start—"
Last edited by cclive; May 1, 2010 at 07:36 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '16-'17-'18
Actually, if you hold the bottom part of the button for a few seconds, it does the same thing as trying to start the car without the clutch pedal pushed in...it turns the ignition to "on"...everything is on except the engine is not running....the equivalent of turning the key to the "run" position without cranking the engine on an old fashioned car that uses a metal key.
the procedure you mention only turns on "accessories". Other electrical items that are only powered while the car is in "full running mode" are NOT activated.
It is NOT the equivalent of " turning the key to the "run" position without cranking the engine on an old fashioned car that uses a metal key"
Sorry but it is not
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Nope, at least not on my '07.
the procedure you mention only turns on "accessories". Other electrical items that are only powered while the car is in "full running mode" are NOT activated.
It is NOT the equivalent of " turning the key to the "run" position without cranking the engine on an old fashioned car that uses a metal key"
Sorry but it is not
the procedure you mention only turns on "accessories". Other electrical items that are only powered while the car is in "full running mode" are NOT activated.
It is NOT the equivalent of " turning the key to the "run" position without cranking the engine on an old fashioned car that uses a metal key"
Sorry but it is not
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '16-'17-'18
I knew I was right before I did it and confirmed that fact.
You're misinterpreting the manual - I just took a look and didn't see anything that indicated any differently than I've been saying.
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '16-'17-'18
OK, then please tell us what doesn't come on by depressing and holding the bottom of the toggle switch. I don't know about your car, but in mine it turns on the A/C, the DIC, the DVD drive, and other things that I can hear even though I don't know what they are. I get power to a lot of stuff that doesn't come on when I'm in accessory mode.
Perhaps the firmware for the computers was changed in later years but as I said, my '07 does NOT power up everything
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You're not holding the button long enough. It takes a good 5 or 6 count and then it turns on the DIC, instruments, radar detector, headlights (if you are in a garage)....everything except the engine. The DIC will go through the same start up sequence as it does when you start the car.
Take a look at page 201 of your manual
Take a look at page 201 of your manual
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '16-'17-'18
OK, I am officially spanked!!
I was holding the button down for less than 5 seconds. If I hold it for longer than 5, then voila! Everything does seem to power up.
I stand corrected
(and always learning something new about these cars!)
I was holding the button down for less than 5 seconds. If I hold it for longer than 5, then voila! Everything does seem to power up.
I stand corrected
(and always learning something new about these cars!)
Last edited by KenHorse; May 1, 2010 at 08:11 PM.
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Bingo!
You're not holding the button long enough. It takes a good 5 or 6 count and then it turns on the DIC, instruments, radar detector, headlights (if you are in a garage)....everything except the engine. The DIC will go through the same start up sequence as it does when you start the car.
Take a look at page 201 of your manual
Take a look at page 201 of your manual