LEO is Law Enforcement Officer. I swear I had the same happen to me, he pulls me over, tells me tints are illegal with the pad in his hand, writes me up in literally 3mins and hands over the ticket I sign and I'm still asking him a question but totally ignores me w/out answering my question and walks back to his car. His demeanor was like "F*** Y**" So I said Out Loud F*** Y** too and just drove off. He really must've been pushed over in high school.

I have a personal saying which is "There are cops and there are Robocops"

 

AORoads, you preempted me!

SYRYDER, since you are going to school here (you do sound a bit younger than most of us), read what AO said closely.

You're an American, and should know this, it makes us different than every other country...especially the Bill of Rights,

1st Amendment: freedom of speech and religion (I lost over 1 million dollars in legal fees in a 6yr lawsuit in Australia because the press couldn't write about corrupt judges, so I paid for my lesson),

2nd Amendment: Right to bear arms,...another thing no other country has, and something that protects us from what happened in **** Germany, Russia, and a bunch of other countries when the govt took guns away from the people then murdered them by the millions.

THE FOUNDING FATHERS, who wrote the Constitution and BILL OF RIGHTS (which no other country has), set up this country so the Federal Govt would have the least amount of power possible, so they could not become like other governments and oppress the people. They never even envisioned a Federal Income Tax, which didn't come about till the early 1900's.

The ONLY thing the Federal govt was empowered to do was to defend the country, since it was beyond the scope of any individual state.

The Founding Fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they saw a national health plan, and all the rest of the power the central govt has usurped from the states and the citizens, OK, back to your lights,...

Go to court, show them with pics that they've been changed, take receipts.

Wait a minute, didn't you tell me in a PM that you just added on lense covers after I told you they are one piece assemblies? If that's the case, take the lense covers out, and give them to the judge.

 

And, another thing,...the average annual federal salary is $70k versus $40k in the private sector. So, once you have a federal (central) with almost unlimited power, they will make themselves a privileged class and just vote more taxes on private citizens, so they can pay themselves and other federal employees more money.

Like the LEO's with bad attitudes. A lot of them make over $100k with benefits, and very generous pensions,...which is one of the reason CA needs $7 billion dollars to fund its deficit. I read somewhere that fireman in LA make about $175k a year with benefits.

So, I'm glad I'm 56, because I only have a limited time to see this country go down the tubes.

BTW- this is what the Founding Fathers were trying to avoid, but people are people and they find a way around everything to empower themselves.

 

Good post - for the PRC section.

We should all try to keep politics out of the C6 Gen section - just my .02

 

Being a retired federal emplyee with over 30 years service to this country I take exception to your genralization of "federal employees", if you don't like what your elected representivies are doing vote them out of office, that's what this country is all about.

 

I agree w/ everything you say....I might sound younger, and maybe I am, but I'm try to keep current and understand how the world works

I've heard about the bill of rights, I've heard about the constituion...we've beat that to death....now the reality

1 trillion for the Clunker deal, 780billion in the hole we call LA, Unions are pocketing all the $$, our governor is a washed out actor who is still on track w/ this scam call global warming. our mayor just wants his face time on TV and flying to Brazil for conferences....

We all know about the deficit mess we're in, we all know about the potential layoff of public workers, we all know about LA got held hostage by the DWP, now raising our utility bills.

Public service jobs were never intented to be unionized, and shouldn't be...they took those jobs for the security of having a job...lower pay is part of the equation, at least at the beginning anyways. Thanks you Brown! Now they get pay Better then the private sector and full pension which we are all in debt for.

Let's not forget, LEOs are out there on our payroll, and that IS the truth, whether you like the sound of it or not...WE ARE THE BOSS! They shouldn't have an bias agenda cuz theres a fear of lossing their job, if they have any *****, they should stand up to their unions and give them the shaft!

Yes! Black-out taillites are against the law, they are enforcing the law...I get that...but don't tell me in this economy crisis, that's the reason why I got the non-correctible tix


Sorry, I don't post often, I just need to vent....I've met and rode w/ really nice bunch of guys called themselves Blockheads. I'm a proud owner of a Vette (soon to be w/o blackout taillites) and I throw a hangloose to all the vette I see on the street!

As for the lites, I can't imagine the judge not dismissing the tix when I produce the proof that they are off. but I'm sure there's going to be fines that's coming out of my pocket and into who knows where...

 

http://www.mamotorworks.com/corvette-7-41-8556.html
http://www.southerncarparts.com/corv...ts-p-2314.html
http://www.smokinvette.com/corvette/...d-tail-lights/

quick 'google' turned up these. Check legality first. Not endorsing, just poking around

 

p.s. please no more politics

I just want the stealth look on my car, that's all!

 

This is not a personal comment!

You are right, this has very little to do with Federal Employees (some of my best friends are federal employees..)

It has everything to do with the politicians that have proven themselves to be less than responsible stewards of the country's finances.

Once bureaucracies are formed, it is hard to undo them. Theoretically, you are right, the power to vote is supposed to offset this. But, unfortunately, the population does get the govt they deserve by often voting in the pol that will tell them they will get something for nothing.

The people get the govt they deserve.

"Federal employees making salaries of $100,000 or more jumped from 14% to 19% of civil servants during the recession's first 18 months"
USA Today. This is while salaries in the private sector either fell or disappeared as the unemployment rate went from 6% to 10%.

Private workers are subject to the free market, whereas governmental (state, local, federal) are simply not.

Besides, you can't take offense because you weren't even the beneficiary of the trend that seems to have picked up steam in the last 10-12 years, that has led to this situation!

30 years ago, governmental employees were probably underpaid if anything. So, no offense intended. All govts tend toward fascism over the long run. Even ours.

 

Yes, back to your car.

My car had the stealth look when I bought it. But, obviously, the stealth look is impossible to have, and comply with laws made for safety reasons. The smoked brake lights really do make them harder to see. I had someone show me that on my car, for the few days I had them. And, you don't want someone rear ending you, and breaking your neck because you wanted that stealth look instead!

But, didn't you say you didn't have to replace the whole assembly because you had lense covers?

I personally didn't like the Halo look, that's why I swapped them for some factory ones. Well, it was cheaper, also.

 

Yes! option 1: Lense off, and hoping there's no fine
option:2 LED (pending on option:1, if there's fine...no more $$ for the LED)

 

One more option, I have a set of black out's for my tail lights and fog lights that are static cling you simply stick them on and smooth out the material and then peel them off when you want to remove them, they stay on thru washing and have never come off unless I peeled them off, this way you could apply them when the chance of a ticket was small and remove them when it was larger.

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...8&dept_id=1381

 

You would have to pay the violation amount. No need to have it corrected.

Blackout lights look horrid and negates the C6's stylish design. That's just my opinion.

Good luck.

Here's the cost:

26101 A I Sale/Use of Equipment Intended to Modify Vehicle
Lighting Equipment Performance
$108.00

Possibly $15 court fees.

Here's a good reference for all of my fellow Californians:

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/referenc...010_jcbail.pdf

 

I didn't know this was out there, but it sounds like it logically should be. IMO it gives the car a unique look. But, OP, do consider what some others have said concerning liability. If someone rear end you hard, you'll be held responsible for the accident. I've had people tell me that they can't tell if the person has put on the brakes during the day.

What if a person dies in the car that rear ends you because of that lessoned visibility?

I don't think it's a good trade-off, too much downside, forget about the cops, that would ruin your life, and for what?



The tint is off the windows, and the rear lights were very smoked, so the car looked very cool, but I can live with it. Afterall, the best view is from behind the wheel.

 

Yes! Once again, I just never put too much thot into that aspect....btw, I hate lawyers, too! Gives this whole country excuses for their own stupidity!

Lenses are coming off soon, sick of lookin over my shoulders, too!

Cool Vette! Looks really nice w/ that setup...

 

Yes, I'm one of those reckless scofflaws that installed dark tinted covers on my rear and side marker lights.

BUT, I tested them for light output and believe me, the brake lights and marker lights are still VERY visible. Also, I left the third brake light the CHMSL stock color and added a blinker circuit to draw attention to my brake lights coming on.

Is this illegal in my state? Don't know. I do know LEO's who have commented that they look great and asked where to buy some.

If I get pulled over for them no biggie, they are held on with clear double sided tape and can come off in seconds.

 

The SL55 I test drove had some sort of tinted tail lights; looked and must be legal if MB sells it that way. I guess there is a way to get the look and still maintain required brightness but I'm sure it cost more than some stick-on plastic.

 

I thought that the law states that lights are required to be visible from X # of feet. If my brake lights are visible from X # of feet then having them tinted shouldn't be an issue.

 

I was involved in a rear end collision a few years back. I had blacked out lights installed on a truck and the other driver was still at fault. Maybe it is up to the individual officer who works the crash. Not to say that you couldn't be blamed but it isn't automatic. Just my 2 cents.