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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by N2TU
Yea, I know...there are quite a few posters who like the GM Navi...we all know that...so there is no need for them to post "I Love it" replies....
So this is just a nav bashing thread and intelligent replies with information and help are not wanted?

Originally Posted by VettinFan
Geez, you guys are starting to make me reconsider getting the factory Navi in the Vette. I have the factory Nav in the Caddy Sport Wagon and it's fantastic.
Don't reconsider. I didn't think I wanted the nav because I already had a Garmin. At the last minute I decided I would get it because it would be built in and not floating around the cockpit in hard turns. Best decision (other than NCM delivery) that I made. We spent about an hour going over various features of the nav at the NCM and I used it on my 300 mile drive home on country roads. The Garmin was on the console and, when they disagreed, I chose the factory nav instructions. It worked great and the Garmin was relegated to the glove compartment after that.

I have never seen an error in the nav that wasn't user error. The nav is very good at doing exactly what you tell it to do. If you tell it you want to go to Bwoling Green and ignore the list and limits on input it has trying to help you spell it correctly, it will not find it. But if you tell it you want directions to get from Bowling Green to Nashville and set the region for Montana, it gives a surprisingly good Montana routing. Because I like the nav so much I have had several PMs from people who insist the nav can't find their location. Every one was easy to find if you have read Talon's sticky. Take the time to learn how to use it and you will love all the extra features it has over the less expensive units. Jump in the car and push a bunch of random selections and you can join the uneducated masses who hate it.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
So this is just a nav bashing thread and intelligent replies with information and help are not wanted?

Don't reconsider. I didn't think I wanted the nav because I already had a Garmin. At the last minute I decided I would get it because it would be built in and not floating around the cockpit in hard turns. Best decision (other than NCM delivery) that I made. We spent about an hour going over various features of the nav at the NCM and I used it on my 300 mile drive home on country roads. The Garmin was on the console and, when they disagreed, I chose the factory nav instructions. It worked great and the Garmin was relegated to the glove compartment after that.

I have never seen an error in the nav that wasn't user error. The nav is very good at doing exactly what you tell it to do. If you tell it you want to go to Bwoling Green and ignore the list and limits on input it has trying to help you spell it correctly, it will not find it. But if you tell it you want directions to get from Bowling Green to Nashville and set the region for Montana, it gives a surprisingly good Montana routing. Because I like the nav so much I have had several PMs from people who insist the nav can't find their location. Every one was easy to find if you have read Talon's sticky. Take the time to learn how to use it and you will love all the extra features it has over the less expensive units. Jump in the car and push a bunch of random selections and you can join the uneducated masses who hate it.
Sorry, but the GM NAV is a POS. I know how to use it and it consistently takes me to the wrong place or just can't find the address. It shows the icons for "Bank of America" and "Chevron" in Palm City, FL being 1/2 mile away from where they actually are. It shows my house to be in the middle of the woods and actually tries to take me through the woods to get there. I am glad you are happy with your NAV, and perhaps they did a better job with the maps in some regions than others. I read Talons sticky and I owned several NAVs. I have a NAV in my Lexus and also own a Nuvi 660. They work just great. Too many people are having issues and they are REAL. A few people are lucky enough to live in areas where the maps are accurate. I highly recommend buying an after market unit to any potential NAV shoppers.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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It does have its quirks but I suppose some NAV is better than no NAV. Afterall, sometimes you just need a map.

Until there is a touchscreen unit that works as intuitively, fast, and seamless as google maps on an i"Device", no one will be getting my money.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by xcutter
Sorry, but the GM NAV is a POS.................I highly recommend buying an after market unit to any potential NAV shoppers.
I bought the factory NAV because it was integrated into the whole system (Hud etc.). Talon90's tutorial helps a lot but the real problem is when you only use your Vette occasionally as I do, the interface is so archaic that you need to constantly look at the manual to do anything beyond the basics. The only issue I've had as far as accuracy is it wouldn't let me enter a well know street as a destination. I don't know if this would be a problem with other NAV's as I thought they all used the same data base.

As a comparison, I just picked up an 07 BMW X5 which came with the factory NAV and although the interface is not the easiest to use, I was able to do use it without having to refer to the manual, something I have not been able to do in the Vette after 3 1/2 years.
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FortMorganAl
So this is just a nav bashing thread and intelligent replies with information and help are not wanted?

Don't reconsider. I didn't think I wanted the nav because I already had a Garmin. At the last minute I decided I would get it because it would be built in and not floating around the cockpit in hard turns. Best decision (other than NCM delivery) that I made. We spent about an hour going over various features of the nav at the NCM and I used it on my 300 mile drive home on country roads. The Garmin was on the console and, when they disagreed, I chose the factory nav instructions. It worked great and the Garmin was relegated to the glove compartment after that.

I have never seen an error in the nav that wasn't user error. The nav is very good at doing exactly what you tell it to do. If you tell it you want to go to Bwoling Green and ignore the list and limits on input it has trying to help you spell it correctly, it will not find it. But if you tell it you want directions to get from Bowling Green to Nashville and set the region for Montana, it gives a surprisingly good Montana routing. Because I like the nav so much I have had several PMs from people who insist the nav can't find their location. Every one was easy to find if you have read Talon's sticky. Take the time to learn how to use it and you will love all the extra features it has over the less expensive units. Jump in the car and push a bunch of random selections and you can join the uneducated masses who hate it.


Negative!

There are a bunch of EDUCATED masses out there, who have read Talon's great tutorial and still feel the GM Navi is junk! There are many of us who do not randomly push buttons, as you alluded to, and are as versed in its operation as you.

Please ask yourself just 1 question...why do I need Talon Book of Knowledge to use a Navi? Why was it necessary for Talon to take the time and effort to explain an instrument which should be intuitively obvious? My lowly Garmin, which blows away the GM Navi, didn't even come with a single page of instructions!

It is simple, user friendly, quick, clean graphics, clear and precise directions, easily adapts to alternate routes, doesn't need to have regional disks, doesn't need to have regions identified and is portable. I can be ANYWHERE in North America and it can find any location within seconds, without the need to localize it. And all for about $150 bucks! Also, the cost of updating the maps and POIs are just $100 for the lifetime of the Garmin as opposed to the $200 a year for the GM.

Hey, if you like the GM Navi, stick with it! Have a ball but please do not insult those of us who have taken the time and effort to learn the Navi and still think it is terrible. We are not uneducated masses.



For anyone thinking of buying the GM Navi for navigation, there are clearly better choices. For those who want the GM Navi for limited functionality but makes the dash look better and they feel the Navi is safer when it is built in, go for it!
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by N2TU


Negative!

There are a bunch of EDUCATED masses out there, who have read Talon's great tutorial and still feel the GM Navi is junk! There are many of us who do not randomly push buttons, as you alluded to, and are as versed in its operation as you.

Please ask yourself just 1 question...why do I need Talon Book of Knowledge to use a Navi? Why was it necessary for Talon to take the time and effort to explain an instrument which should be intuitively obvious? My lowly Garmin, which blows away the GM Navi, didn't even come with a single page of instructions!

It is simple, user friendly, quick, clean graphics, clear and precise directions, easily adapts to alternate routes, doesn't need to have regional disks, doesn't need to have regions identified and is portable. I can be ANYWHERE in North America and it can find any location within seconds, without the need to localize it. And all for about $150 bucks! Also, the cost of updating the maps and POIs are just $100 for the lifetime of the Garmin as opposed to the $200 a year for the GM.

Hey, if you like the GM Navi, stick with it! Have a ball but please do not insult those of us who have taken the time and effort to learn the Navi and still think it is terrible. We are not uneducated masses.



For anyone thinking of buying the GM Navi for navigation, there are clearly better choices. For those who want the GM Navi for limited functionality but makes the dash look better and they feel the Navi is safer when it is built in, go for it!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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