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There was a new coupe on the dealers lot that I looked at last night that had in-transit damage. Something hit the top of the windshield, damaged the trim and dinged the roof panel. The roof panel had already been fixed and they were waiting on the new windshield.
Will this show up on a carfax and does it affect the value of the car?
I was lookin at trucks with my son a couple weeks ago and a Ford dealer showed him a new F-150 that had been damaged when they were unloading it from the truck. The damage had been fixed and you couldn't tell it had ever been hit but they were discounting it by over $5000!!
I can't answer your question, but I'd figure it would show up in a carfax, loosely based on the following story.
This was about 15 yrs ago, but is still amazing.
A jury in Alabama awarded someone $4 million because the guy had bought a BMW that was sold as new and implicitly w/o prior damage.
Turned out that the door was dinged and the dealer repaired and repainted w/o them telling the buyer.
Now, obviously the $4 mil award was ludicrous, and would have been appealled.
But, now that I'm reading your post, looking back on the BMW story, I can see why dealers are so forthright about telling the potential buyer that the car had been damaged.
Depends on the state as to the amount required for disclosure or totalling of a vehicle. I can't recall the state, but I remember seeing a totalled Impala for simply the fact that the transporter "ripped" the tie-down locations on the cradle...Would have been an easy fix and no one would have known. The state it came from required totalling the car.
Sounds as if your state is pretty strong on enforcing if the dealers are willingly dislosing damage. As far as carfax...I doubt it would ever show, but won't know until it is "too late" probably.
I can't answer your question, but I'd figure it would show up in a carfax, loosely based on the following story.
This was about 15 yrs ago, but is still amazing.
A jury in Alabama awarded someone $4 million because the guy had bought a BMW that was sold as new and implicitly w/o prior damage.
Turned out that the door was dinged and the dealer repaired and repainted w/o them telling the buyer.
Now, obviously the $4 mil award was ludicrous, and would have been appealled.
But, now that I'm reading your post, looking back on the BMW story, I can see why dealers are so forthright about telling the potential buyer that the car had been damaged.
Not saying this isn't true but it seems a bit far fetched. I've ordered 2 BMWs from Germany - when they arrive they come into the US via their facility in New Jersey. While not common it's fairly routine for that New Jersey facility to "fix" damage in transit across the ocean. Those vehicles are not disclosed and sold as new. Really - why wouldn't they be? It's all "factory paint". Like I said in my original post - happens all the time. Local dealership has Audi and Mercedes - unsold vehicles routinely have paintless dent repair, etc. performed secondary to lot damage. Never disclosed, sold as new.
A friend of mine is a truck driver that transport's new Ford's. Usually if the car can be be put back to as delivered from factory new condition, it's still a virgin car. An example would be replacing the entire welded factory exaust system if the tail pipe got bent. If sheet metal damage, then normally disclosed, repaired and sold at a reduced price. My niece bought a car like this and never had any problem's. Also, the transit company insurance pay's for all losses, and the driver is automatically dismissed for a few day's, maybe a week.