C6 Corvette General Discussion General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Feral Industries

Important Info...Please Read !!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 11:56 AM
  #1  
Ga Corvette Man DDS's Avatar
Ga Corvette Man DDS
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default Important Info...Please Read !!!

I've been around Corvettes pretty much all my life. Over 60 years. Please listen to me when I say...When Ever you LIFT your Corvette, make sure the people know what they are DOING !!

I have "several" friends that have had their fender tips (right at drivers and passengers foot area) (right before rocker panel) BROKEN OFF by some idiot not lifting the vette properly! Please, Please make sure they use a One Piece Rail Lift! Don't let ANYONE lift your corvette using a floor jack... or 4 point lift... or front / rear lift. You may be very sorry.

CARMAX...yes, CARMAX broke the rocker panel on a 2006 Red Convertible last week! OF COURSE they denied they did it, BUT they did!!

This is the THIRD such damage I've heard of that CARMAX has done!!!!

I don't care how careful they are...I don't care how many times they've done it...I don't care how many corvettes they own...DON'T let them life your vette on anything buy a ONE PIECE RAIL LIFT !!

I'm sure someone is going to say "I've had my vette lifted hundreds of times and never had a problem!" If so, you are one lucky dude!

Just Wait! Sooner or Later...you are going to hear the dreaded POP!
And the DOPE that does it probably is NOT going to tell you about his mistake.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:08 PM
  #2  
markmott's Avatar
markmott
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 440
Likes: 5
From: Orange Texas
St. Jude Donor '16
Default

Great advice!!
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 01:47 PM
  #3  
HD_Rider's Avatar
HD_Rider
Pro
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 723
Likes: 52
From: Colorado Springs
Default

Do you not know how to lift the Covette properly? Did you not try to impart that knowledge to the mechanic working on your car?

Personally, I would not trust ANYONE (including the dealer) to work on my car unless absolutely necessary. And if someone does have to work on my car, I'm gonnna make damn sure they have the right equipment and know how to properly lift a C6 Corvette. And lastly, I'm gonna inspect those rocker panels before and after said maintenance and I'm going to make sure they know that I've inspected those rockers.

With today's half-*** mechanics and maintenance shops, you have to know how to protect yourself and your property, leaving little to chance and minimizing your risk by any means possible. It's a sad reality, but a true one.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:12 PM
  #4  
AORoads's Avatar
AORoads
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46,295
Likes: 2,596
From: Northern, VA
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
Default

I don't doubt that you've had a bad experience(s), but if you look at where and how the C6 should be lifted, it might change your mind.

There are a lot of incompetent or incapable people who service cars, but as you describe wasn't the only way the car was necessarily designed to be lifted.

Altho this is an old thread, it's by a friend. Take a look at the main and alternative jacking points in the thread.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...c-dk13hlq.html
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 03:49 PM
  #5  
Gannet's Avatar
Gannet
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime Gold
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,448
Likes: 4
From: Sarasota Florida
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

Ok, I'll bite. What's a "one piece rail lift"?
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:11 PM
  #6  
VETFEVER's Avatar
VETFEVER
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 10,805
Likes: 706
From: Feverish All Over
Default

Originally Posted by Gannet
Ok, I'll bite. What's a "one piece rail lift"?
I think he means a lift made of ramps you just drive up on - the car just sits on its own wheels...
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:13 PM
  #7  
VatorMan's Avatar
VatorMan
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Navy
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 43,151
Likes: 45
From: Gaithersburg Maryland
CI 6-7-8 Veteran
St. Jude's Donor '06-'10-'11, '15
Default

I break my vette every time I go to the track I guess. Lifted mine many times changing wheels, brakes etc... with my trusty old low rise racing floor jack.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:19 PM
  #8  
AORoads's Avatar
AORoads
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46,295
Likes: 2,596
From: Northern, VA
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
Default

Originally Posted by VETFEVER
I think he means a lift made of ramps you just drive up on - the car just sits on its own wheels...
wonder how a C6 owner will ever change wheels/tires using the OP's methods.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:24 PM
  #9  
C5C6Norm's Avatar
C5C6Norm
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,500
Likes: 0
From: Lower, Slower Delaware, formerly from Mobtown, MD (Baltimore)
Default

When accompanying the car to be worked on and it has to go on a lift, of course, if you can be there, don't stand there and instruct the tech on lifting procedures, most will not appreciate your input and will get a case of the azz.

Just ask the technician politely, "could you show me how you lift the car?" If it's obvious he doesn't know how, then inform. If he still gets a case of the azz, I wouldn't let him work on it anymore, if you have that option.

Of course, you have to have that "I'm the customer and I'm king" type of relationship with your service people, and that's hard to find.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:28 PM
  #10  
C-INRED's Avatar
C-INRED
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,709
Likes: 1
From: Pacific Northwest
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

Originally Posted by AORoads
wonder how a C6 owner will ever change wheels/tires using the OP's methods.
When I got new tires I removed the wheels and took them in to have the tires replaced. Why take the chance?
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:57 PM
  #11  
Gordon Shumway's Avatar
Gordon Shumway
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 30,699
Likes: 11
From: Ocala FL
Default

Originally Posted by Gannet
Ok, I'll bite. What's a "one piece rail lift"?
Originally Posted by VETFEVER
I think he means a lift made of ramps you just drive up on - the car just sits on its own wheels...
I was wondering the same thing, but I'm not so sure he was talking driving up on ramps. My first thought was he was talking about those rocker panel rails a few vendors around here sell, but I'm not even sure about that. I think we need the OP back to clarify what he is talking about.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:07 PM
  #12  
wu6fiend's Avatar
wu6fiend
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,141
Likes: 4
From: Surrey B.C.
Default

Originally Posted by C-INRED
When I got new tires I removed the wheels and took them in to have the tires replaced. Why take the chance?
After watching the idiot at the tire shop stall my car three times while trying to get it onto the lift (I finally went out, and told him to get out, and to get someone else, who could drive a standard, to do it. The manager came out and did it), I heartily agree.

From now on, the car stays home, and the wheels/tires go in the SUV, to go to the tire shop by themselves.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:13 PM
  #13  
eddie44's Avatar
eddie44
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 6,454
Likes: 3
From: Hells Sister City Phoenix AZ
St. Jude Donor '03
Default

Originally Posted by wu6fiend
From now on, the car stays home, and the wheels/tires go in the SUV, to go to the tire shop by themselves.
And when you get home you have a lift to put it on to reinstall them? Per the OP you shouldn't use a floor jack.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:14 PM
  #14  
JonnyL's Avatar
0JonnyL
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
From: Indiana
Default

Originally Posted by VETFEVER
I think he means a lift made of ramps you just drive up on - the car just sits on its own wheels...
Oh crap.

Now I gotta get all product promoty....

Race Ramps Portable Pit Stop Ramp (http://www.raceramps.com/portablepitstopramp.html.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 05:17 PM
  #15  
CQRT's Avatar
CQRT
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 24,500
Likes: 312
From: Scottsdale AZ
Default

hence, the "approved lift points" in the manual and the endless discussion on why we use lifting pucks.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:00 PM
  #16  
richhoff's Avatar
richhoff
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,288
Likes: 6
From: St. Clairsville OH
Default

You are right...there are alot of idiots out there who don't know how to lift it correctly. Evedn if you tell them to be sure to use the jacking pucks, they probably won't. I once took mine to what was supposed to be the top Corvette shop in the area. I asked and they told me they are experts...they know how to do it. They started to lift it on the rocker panels. I had them take it down and left......
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:24 PM
  #17  
Knob Jockey's Avatar
Knob Jockey
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 11,367
Likes: 211
From: Edgewood Washington
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Default

Obviously it's possible to use a floor jack, but you still have to be competent enough to lift the car at the correct points and/or the jacking pucks.

Many tire shops, and clearly CARMAX, lack technicians skilled enough to perform the task.

You have to question the manager to get a sense of the general competency of the shop, and if the man-in-charge is unsure, find a better shop.

I installed Elite Engineering's Frame Protectors to make the process a little easier, but I still find it necessary to apply a little intimidation to the management to make the point clear, that if they damage anything do to incompetence, they will have one raging, pissed off, boisterous customer letting everyone in the vicinity know what I think of their facility/personnel and what it's going to cost them to make things right.

Of course, being a fairly large person helps. So far I've been lucky.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Important Info...Please Read !!!

Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:28 PM
  #18  
Bill Dearborn's Avatar
Bill Dearborn
Tech Contributor
25 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 41,058
Likes: 9,821
From: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Default

Originally Posted by Ga Corvette Man DDS
Please make sure they use a One Piece Rail Lift! Don't let ANYONE lift your corvette using a floor jack... or 4 point lift... or front / rear lift. You may be very sorry.
There is no need to worry that much. A floor jack is perfectly acceptable as is a 4 point lift. As long as they are used appropriately. In the Service Manual GM even shows you where to lift and tells you how to do it. Even your recommended lift (although I have no idea what it is) can break something if used inappropriately.

I have been lifting Corvettes since 1972 with floor jacks and 4 point lifts and have never had a problem. I have been lifting C5 and C6 Corvettes with these tools since early 97. During the track season my cars are on and off jacks and lifts multiple times per week as I change wheels/tires, brake components and check various items under the car for safety. My personal lift is a 4 point Eagle Mid Rise Scissors lift that the Vette is sitting on right now.

Bill
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:30 PM
  #19  
wxman2003's Avatar
wxman2003
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: Sioux Falls South Dakota
Default

Put the pucks on yourself, right before you hand them the fob. I would do it right in front of the mechanic, and tell them to use them correctly.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:03 PM
  #20  
VET4LES's Avatar
VET4LES
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 27,420
Likes: 64
From: San Clemente CA
Default

Originally Posted by C-INRED
When I got new tires I removed the wheels and took them in to have the tires replaced. Why take the chance?
I do the same thing. This way I torque the lug nuts properly, put the correct air in them when I get home and give the inside of the wheel a good cleaning. I use pucks which the op didn't mention.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:04 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE