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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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I'm 23, make close to 6 figures a year, had a house built 5 months ago, good credit, and i cant get approved from my bank to get a car loan for an '05 C6.

I currently lease an IS250, and my payments on the loan would be the same as my leased car (which I'm getting rid of/transferring to someone else).

Anyone got any suggestions to get approved? I'm trying to get a loan for a private party seller, i dont like dealerships.

REALLY want to get this done. And tomorrow is my birthday, so a big stamp of approval from a bank this weekend (yes, some are open) would be awesome!

Thanks for any help!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Is the problem that the IS250 lease is not yet transferred so still shows as your liability? If so, it's possible no bank will approve you until you unload it.

Also, does transferring the lease take you off the hook completely or do you still have some liability?

Have you asked the bank why you don't qualify? Is it your total debt, credit score or what?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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The IS250 is still in my name, but i was told they would run it showing no liability to it, since i will NOT have it when i need this loan, or it wont overlap more than a few days worth. And yes, transferring the lease completely withdraws my name from the IS250 account.

The bank said its because of my "limited credit history". I just find it hard to believe since I've had, and paid for and paid off credit cards since i was 18, and my current status of being a homeowner.

Not knowing all the in's and out's of credit, its just hard. I know i can make the payments (since the highest it would be is my current payments), but yet they tell me i cant do it. All of the sudden, i feel like I'm a child and they are telling me I cant have a new (used) car for reasons they cant explain to me (I know its different than that, but thats the immediate feeling i get).
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Credit is tight, they learned there lesson from a few years ago. Zero down on houses people couldn't afford, paying interest only loans. What are you putting down? Maybe if you were to put more down and finance less it would be more feasible for the bank?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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You need to have a substantial down payment to get approval, probably 50% or more of the KBB value.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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Assuming you really have decent credit and can afford the car, I'd just start calling every bank around. Chase has good rates. You can also apply online for many of them, but a phone call to the right person at the local branch will usually get the ball rolling faster. If one says no, move on to the next. I wouldn't get discouraged until they give you some concrete reasons that can't be overcome (i.e. your debt to income ratio with your house and this car loan puts you in a position that they won't accept). Either way...just be responsible for what you can handle, and keep plugging away....don't forget...they're not your friends...its purely a business transactions. Make 5 phone calls...now....you'll get it done.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by schmegeggie
You need to have a substantial down payment to get approval, probably 50% or more of the KBB value.
I could see this helping a great deal. Luckily, i get my quarterly bonus in November, looks like i might be using it towards a C6.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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It's probly your new house, lots of credit checking going on while buying one. All that checking can make them very nervous and sometimes drops your score. Give it 6 months and try again.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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5 years is not a long credit history. 40 years is.

Being a home owner is not an indication of being a good credit risk. If you have not heard, there is a slight 'foreclosure thing' going on.
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Originally Posted by EDinPA
5 years is not a long credit history. 40 years is.

Being a home owner is not an indication of being a good credit risk. If you have not heard, there is a slight 'foreclosure thing' going on.
It does not take 40 years to develop a credit rating. If it did, no one under 60 would qualifly. Having credit cards and paying them off on time should help in building your credit rating. The key is how much credit are you using compared to the total credit you have. Borrowing to the limit on credit cards, even if you are paying on time, will negatively affect your rating. The previous posters comment on having many credit checks in a short period of time is also a negative. Buying from a private party is also frowned upon by most banks. The rate you would get would be much lower if you bought from a franchise dealer.

That being said, have you tried the bank that has your mortgage? If you do not have a mortgage have you tried for a equity loan? The interest on an equity loan may give you a tax deduction while a car loan will not. Also try a local community bank.

Good luck.
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Dad or Mom willing to co-sign? You seem like you are a good risk.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts guys. My last attempt (which likely, should have been my first) is asking a family friend who is VP of a banking division. It's not a huge chained bank, and not in my city, otherwise i would have thought of this.

If she cant pull any strings, i suppose my dreams will have to wait.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer44
Dad or Mom willing to co-sign? You seem like you are a good risk.
Mom doesnt have good credit after a bad recent divorce (i dont know details, but thats the story).

Step-dad - not sure about his credit.

Either way, I might rather wait than have a co-signer, I feel more independent that way. But on the other hand, it could get me into a vette...
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Your best chances are with the bank that has your bank accounts - their "computer" will take that into consideration.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Good luck on that, as thing's have really changed. I remember about 10 years ago when I could basically walk into my credit union, sign my name and get just about any kind of loan I wanted. My credit rating's very good, but last time I applied for a car loan, they basically reamed me a new one. I'd start by checking your credit report, and paying down as much outstanding debt as possible. Sound's like you're trying to be responsible, but because of your limited credit history, you may want to consider a cosigner, such as a parent or co-worker.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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If you have a Credit Union account you MAY have a better chance of getting a loan as long as they have access to debit from the account or from your pay check. They tend to want to loan money and aren't tied to the national bank organizations. Being 23 and newly into a house will certainly have the credit managers with eyes wide open. On a side note, have you actually checked or had checked your credit scores?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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If your description of yourself is accurate in your original post,the only reason I can see is crappy credit score or debt to income issue. In which case a credit worthy co signer will alleviate both of those issues.
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i got approved through GM for 4.99% for 72months on a used 09 maybe you can get the same or better sense your 05 will be much cheaper.

Im 24 but dont own a house, i put $500 down no co-signer
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Check around, just be quick about it. Leave a big gap between hard credit checks hurts your credit rating. Are you putting any money down? Down payments is what the banks care about these days.

And 5 years isn't that big of a credit history. That is only a couple years before the recession officially started.

I would NEVER have anyone cosign my loan. I've been on my on since I was 17 (1986). You are OWNED by that person. I won't cosign for anyone also, especially for a car.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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If you get turned down again I would ask why. Maybe you shouldn't be buying a Corvette right now.
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