Get 1 screw in tire then must replace it?
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Drifting
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Get 1 screw in tire then must replace it?
I wanted to get you guys opinions here. I just got 2 new firehawk indy 500 tires for the rear. I was talking to the tire technician and he was saying that IF I was to get say a srew or a nail in one of these low profile tires that I need to replace it and not repair it. That can get very expensive. He said because the tire looses it speed rating and ragidity. Can you guys elaborate on this is this true what he is saying?
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Melting Slicks
One thing he's telling you, in a round-about way, is that you should purchase the extra-cost road hazard protection. For about 10-15% of the cost of a new tire, you in effect purchase an insurance policy that will replace it if you pick up a nail or screw, or in some other way damange the tire that makes it unrepairable.
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I wanted to get you guys opinions here. I just got 2 new firehawk indy 500 tires for the rear. I was talking to the tire technician and he was saying that IF I was to get say a srew or a nail in one of these low profile tires that I need to replace it and not repair it. That can get very expensive. He said because the tire looses it speed rating and ragidity. Can you guys elaborate on this is this true what he is saying?
I wouldn't buy a tire that couldn't be repaired if the nail/screw was in a "repairable" place. I understand a tire can't be repaired if the injury is great or the puncture is in the wrong spot, but to make a general statement that if the tire was ever to pick up a nail it couldn't be repaired is a deal breaker for me.
#4
Drifting
I got two flats with runflats and both time the tire was repaired. Of course the nail was close to center thread but the tech plugged the tire than removed it trimed the plug and patched it from the inside. Never had a problem
#5
Le Mans Master
Firestone wants you to buy a new tire if you get a nail or screw. I believe it says that on the sidewall. If you take it to a Firestone dealer they will probably refuse to repair it. If you go to a more reasonable independent shop they probably will repair it good as new.
Yes, the dealer you went to is probably just trying to sell you the road hazard policy that puts more money in his pocket. Whether you want to spend that money depends on whether you think you get more flats than average and can cover the insurance policy profit margin. The last time I had a tire patched was about 15 years ago on a tire that was over half worn out anyway so I wouldn't be able to cover the profit margin. If you can't afford to buy a tire (or 2) on the off chance you pick up a screw then you really can't afford to be driving a Corvette.
Yes, the dealer you went to is probably just trying to sell you the road hazard policy that puts more money in his pocket. Whether you want to spend that money depends on whether you think you get more flats than average and can cover the insurance policy profit margin. The last time I had a tire patched was about 15 years ago on a tire that was over half worn out anyway so I wouldn't be able to cover the profit margin. If you can't afford to buy a tire (or 2) on the off chance you pick up a screw then you really can't afford to be driving a Corvette.
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Race Director
That's a little extreme, don't you think? The OP didn't say he couldn't afford new tires. He said that could get expensive. Even a millionaire wouldn't want to flip out $400 every time he gets a flat tire even though he can easily afford it.
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Correct that the repair will derate the Z rating on the tire. But honestly are you planning to drive anywhere the rated speed? Of so you might want to upgrade the tires anyway. This does not just apply to the hawks, but any speed rated tire. Would be sure and use a good shop that will not just stick a plug in and say good. Tire should be dismounted, inspected and correct patch/plug installed.
#9
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I've had Firehawks on each of my last four 'Vettes C-4 to C-6 and have been more than satisfied. Having said that, I have / would never "plug" a speed rated tire. If the puncture isn't in or near the sidewall it can be patched. The proper way is to dismount the tire and patch it from the inside. If the tire tech is competent it won't even require rebalancing the tire.
#10
Burning Brakes
There was another thread about Firestone wide ovals a while back. Someone posted a pic of the tire and it says clearly on the sidewall, DO NOT REPAIR. I do not believe i would buy a tire if it stated on the tire that it could not be repaired.
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I wanted to get you guys opinions here. I just got 2 new firehawk indy 500 tires for the rear. I was talking to the tire technician and he was saying that IF I was to get say a srew or a nail in one of these low profile tires that I need to replace it and not repair it. That can get very expensive. He said because the tire looses it speed rating and ragidity. Can you guys elaborate on this is this true what he is saying?
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I did buy the road protection plan and so far I have not had to use it. City driving I'd say go for it. Country or rural driving, Maybe. Good Luck and Happy Holidays to all
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Melting Slicks
Any tire can be repaired as long as the screw is not in the sidewall. I took a screw in my goodyears at 3k, and they ran fine until I replaced them at 25k
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"In honor of jpee"
If you look at the PDF supplied by k24 as an attachment in the left-hand column, blue section labeled Important, the third paragraph clearly states:
"Some runflat technology tires cannot be repaired. Consult tire mfr. for their policy...."
Just trying to be clear in what is stated as fact.
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I have had a couple of nails in my RF. Both times Discount Tire did the repair by taking tire off and putting an inside plug/patch repair. It keeps the tire rating that way. It seals the hole so no moisture can get to the cords. If nail is in the sidewall, no repair is possible. That is the way the Goodyear store will also do a repair. It is possible to repair a simple nail hole with the old plug style, but it void the speed rating. That can be done in an emergency say on an older tire to get you to place to buy new tire. Discount Tire knows how to handle RF's I have found out.
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