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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/19/r...adillac-ats-v/

Direct Injection 6.2 liter pushrod V8 putting out 470hp and 438 ft-lbs of torque for the 2014 Cadillac ATS-V.

It would surprise me if this car had more horsepower than the same model year Vette. It also shows how potent direct injection is, as I'm assuming that 6.2 isn't too far off from the current LS3.

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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There's a Caddy out now with More horses then every Vette except the ZR1.I think they're going to the 5.5L direct injection.I do know one thing for sure,we'll all find out in a couple of years.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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However, it's considerably more expensive than a base Vette. This should compete at the same price point. 50-60ish.
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However, it's considerably more expensive than a base Vette. This should compete at the same price point. 50-60ish.
I assume much heavier to boot.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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True but the MUCH heavier CTS-V already puts up GS numbers. This car should be considerably lighter and only slightly underpowered. Much like the M3 to the M5.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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I think what the OP is getting at, is that he foresees the use of this direct injected motor in the future C6 (or C7) applications.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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I'm also thinking the future will be 5.5L with direct-injection, if for no other reason than to remain in sync with GT2 racing specs. Of course I don't really know, and if I did I couldn't say.
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I think what the OP is getting at, is that he foresees the use of this direct injected motor in the future C6 (or C7) applications.
Exactly, and I expect a decent boost in horsepower. If a CTS-V and Z28 can have 556+, and an ATS-V 470... Why should we expect GM's halo car to remain stagnant in HP numbers, with only a drop in weight. With this latest report I wouldn't be surprised if the C7 had Z06 like horsepower and even lesser weight numbers.
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True but the MUCH heavier CTS-V already puts up GS numbers. This car should be considerably lighter and only slightly underpowered. Much like the M3 to the M5.
Hopefully, next year's vettes, or maybe when the C7 is released, GM will have, as was suggested earlier, a 5.5 DI engine for the vettes. It is for me too, disappointing, irritating, disconcerting, that GM has made their freekin' daddies caddies both equal too, and possible of exceeding the performance of their MAIN ride, so to speak. Opps, guess we are the daddies and grand daddies now. Aggravating to contemplate, huh.
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Hopefully, next year's vettes, or maybe when the C7 is released, GM will have, as was suggested earlier, a 5.5 DI engine for the vettes. It is for me too, disappointing, irritating, disconcerting, that GM has made their freekin' daddies caddies both equal too, and possible of exceeding the performance of their MAIN ride, so to speak. Opps, guess we are the daddies and grand daddies now. Aggravating to contemplate, huh.
Haha, I understand what you're getting at and you might hate me for saying this buuuuuut I'm 24 and single!
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Haha, I understand what you're getting at and you might hate me for saying this buuuuuut I'm 24 and single!
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Originally Posted by soulcoaxing
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Alright, back on subject. I find this information to be incredibly exciting and a sign of more great things to come from GM. 470hp from Caddy's entry level offering!? That would have been unheard of even 5 years ago.
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Where ever this goes, it's good news for future power levels. I think that advanced automotive tech will keep the 70's from happening again.
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Originally Posted by soulcoaxing
I assume much heavier to boot.
I think he's talking about the engine. Or are you inferring that the "engine" will be heavier? And it appears GM is positioning Cadillac as the companies HALO division.

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'm also thinking the future will be 5.5L with direct-injection, if for no other reason than to remain in sync with GT2 racing specs. Of course I don't really know, and if I did I couldn't say.
Well,you could....but then you'd have to kill us all.
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And it appears GM is positioning Cadillac as the companies HALO division. Tom
Somehow I never got the impression Chevrolet was GM's HALO division.
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Originally Posted by laconiajack
Somehow I never got the impression Chevrolet was GM's HALO division.
My bad I meant "performance division". We all know for other reasons its the HALO division, but who would have thought "performance".

I'm wanting a CTS-V wagon so when I retire next year I can get rid of the SRX and Z06. Why because after 50+ years I'll be able to get the Yellow Lab I've wanted since I was boy back in the 50's and the V wagon will allow me, the wife and new buddy to go places together and play with the big boys.

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