paddle shift ?
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paddle shift ?
when your trying to get the fastest take what is the best rpm to hit the shift at?I have hit it to late a couple of times and it delayed on me and hit the rev limit?Anybody else have this prob?
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Simple Answer #1: Paddle shifting is ALWAYS slower than just letting the A6 tranny do the shifting for you.
Simple Answer #2: Don't use the paddles for drag racing.
Simple Answer #3: When paddle shifting, there is ALWAYS a risk of bumping the rev limiter.
What rpm should you pull the trigger to avoid bumping the limiter? There's no simple answer.
For instance, paddle shifting from 1st to 2nd, full throttle... the tach needle swings so fast... given my old-man reaction times, in my 09 Z51 I probably need to decide to shift a thousand rpm or so below redline.
And if you're going downhill full-throttle, the tach needle swings REAL fast.
Or, maybe what you think is the rev limiter is really the traction control killing the throttle. Or maybe active handling applying the brakes. Or both. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...blem-help.html
BTW, if you're bumping the rev limiter in 2nd (w/2.56 rear), you're over 80 mph... and 3rd gear gets you over 130 mph.
Speeds in gears: http://mysite.verizon.net/foofoo2/c6/
That is, be careful out there.
Simple Answer #2: Don't use the paddles for drag racing.
Simple Answer #3: When paddle shifting, there is ALWAYS a risk of bumping the rev limiter.
What rpm should you pull the trigger to avoid bumping the limiter? There's no simple answer.
For instance, paddle shifting from 1st to 2nd, full throttle... the tach needle swings so fast... given my old-man reaction times, in my 09 Z51 I probably need to decide to shift a thousand rpm or so below redline.
And if you're going downhill full-throttle, the tach needle swings REAL fast.
Or, maybe what you think is the rev limiter is really the traction control killing the throttle. Or maybe active handling applying the brakes. Or both. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...blem-help.html
BTW, if you're bumping the rev limiter in 2nd (w/2.56 rear), you're over 80 mph... and 3rd gear gets you over 130 mph.
Speeds in gears: http://mysite.verizon.net/foofoo2/c6/
That is, be careful out there.
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Manual upshifts just before redline are very difficult to achieve.
With a tuned A6 it's probably easier to execute this without hitting the rev limiter.
For fastest results, leave the the tranny in S auto and exercise some discretion.
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this doesnt have anything to do with paddel shifters except its around the same location. When your dash is illuminated is the RESET button suppose to light up like everything else??? sorry its been buggin me 
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14-'15
Yes, but the little individual lamp for that button may not be working.
The bulbs aren't easy to replace. They are soldered in.
Many wait until they have several that have failed and replace the switch cluster.
Try a Search for this. Many posts and pics.
The bulbs aren't easy to replace. They are soldered in.
Many wait until they have several that have failed and replace the switch cluster.
Try a Search for this. Many posts and pics.
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thanks! im actually taking it to the dealer this weekend ill see how much they want to charge for that...probably 300 lol
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the prob with just leaving it in auto is it doesn't always start in 1st.So when I stomp on it I get a small delay for the down shift then when it does downshift I have full throttle and it is very hard to control.Is there a way to make it take off in 1st every time you put it in S?
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Once you get used to the A6 and your vette it becomes second nature as to what revs to paddle shift from 1 st to 2nd.
Best IMO not to be looking at the tach when you are getting the quick launch that the vette is capable of.
I go buy the sound of the revs.
If you want every ounce of power during launch you need to let the tranny do the shifting for you in S mode like the other posters have said.
Best IMO not to be looking at the tach when you are getting the quick launch that the vette is capable of.
I go buy the sound of the revs.
If you want every ounce of power during launch you need to let the tranny do the shifting for you in S mode like the other posters have said.
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Or maybe something is wrong... from a dead stop in Auto, it should ALWAYS start in first.
The only time it starts in 2nd gear is when you're paddle-shifting.
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St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13-'14-'15
If you come to a full stop in either D or S Auto, the tranny always starts in 1st.
When using the paddles and you come to a stop without manually downshifting, the car downshifts to second and that's where you will start unless you hit the paddle down.
This is a commonly misunderstood feature.
Loss of traction also has an adverse effect on the tranny/up-shifting at times as well.
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If you come to a full stop in either D or S Auto, the tranny always starts in 1st.
When using the paddles and you come to a stop without manually downshifting, the car downshifts to second and that's where you will start unless you hit the paddle down.
This is a commonly misunderstood feature.
Loss of traction also has an adverse effect on the tranny/up-shifting at times as well.
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Try 5500 and work your way up from there. I shoot for 5800 on mine. Seems like it varies by year, individual car, tune/mods etc.
Also, be advised that the stock 6L80 A6 will NOT upshift when you hit the paddle if AHS is active. If you have the hammer down, AHS will not prevent you from hitting the rev limiter either. So, since you can't upshift with AHS active, the only way to avoid the rev limiter in this case is to retard the throttle. This can also occur in D or S-auto mode.
At 6500 rpm, traction is your friend!
Last edited by Migs08; Jan 26, 2011 at 08:46 AM.
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You're talking about the 5-button switch assembly (RESET, OPTION, TRIP, GAGES, FUEL)?
About $40 from gmpartsdirect (msrp is $62).
Pretty easy to remove & replace -- all you need is a cheap-plastic trim-removal tool and some short screwdrivers. Working slowly & carefully, it took me ~20 minutes as part of a HUD install.
Pics & instructions on pgs 9-10 (of 47) here: http://www.theredlion.us/C6%20HUD%20...%20Rev%202.pdf
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lol ya one of those buttons, when they told me 160 i laughed at em and told them no way, i knew i could get it for cheap from gmpartsdirect or partstaxi, thanks for the install guide though! you know where i can get one of those trim removal tools? i know i dont NEED it but im doing a madvette sound insulation kit and it would be nice to have
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You can get a good-plastic Actron set for under $20. Cheap-plastic knock-offs for under $10: http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece...set-67021.html
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the prob with just leaving it in auto is it doesn't always start in 1st.So when I stomp on it I get a small delay for the down shift then when it does downshift I have full throttle and it is very hard to control.Is there a way to make it take off in 1st every time you put it in S?
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Let's say you're driving around town and paddle-shifting... as you slow to a stop, the A6 automatically downshifts -- just like it would in Auto mode -- except when you come to a complete stop, you'll be in 2nd gear.
AND you'll stay in 2nd gear until you paddle-shift (or go back to Auto mode).
