Launch Control
Pro
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From: Riverlea OH-IO
I'm 29 years old, and was taught to respect my elders. Secondly, they can drive whatever way they want as long as the car gives them the pleasure who cares?!!
I take care of my vette, I take it up to 120+ every now and then but for the most part just cruise around with the top down and fir get about the world, it's a feeling that every driver describes different.
I take care of and also use my things, but I don't abuse them... If you do, more owed to you... But when you bad mouth "older persons" in the process, that's just wrong!
I take care of my vette, I take it up to 120+ every now and then but for the most part just cruise around with the top down and fir get about the world, it's a feeling that every driver describes different.
I take care of and also use my things, but I don't abuse them... If you do, more owed to you... But when you bad mouth "older persons" in the process, that's just wrong!
Well said, but some of us old farts need to be abused.On topic, doesn't sound like much support for the LC. Don't have it, doesn't sound like I need it.
coop
Le Mans Master
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From: Your Sister's Bedroom
Where in any of my posts did I bad mouth the elderly? I didnt....
Im the same age as you and my wife is a few years younger and we both beat our cars like they owe us money... Im not saying thats what everyone should do, Im just saying it sickens me to see these cars not used for what they were designed for.
Im the same age as you and my wife is a few years younger and we both beat our cars like they owe us money... Im not saying thats what everyone should do, Im just saying it sickens me to see these cars not used for what they were designed for.
I'm 29 years old, and was taught to respect my elders. Secondly, they can drive whatever way they want as long as the car gives them the pleasure who cares?!!
I take care of my vette, I take it up to 120+ every now and then but for the most part just cruise around with the top down and fir get about the world, it's a feeling that every driver describes different.
I take care of and also use my things, but I don't abuse them... If you do, more owed to you... But when you bad mouth "older persons" in the process, that's just wrong!
I take care of my vette, I take it up to 120+ every now and then but for the most part just cruise around with the top down and fir get about the world, it's a feeling that every driver describes different.
I take care of and also use my things, but I don't abuse them... If you do, more owed to you... But when you bad mouth "older persons" in the process, that's just wrong!
Pro
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Pipe Creek TX
I am using mine more and more on limited traction surfaces during auto cross events.
It is not a cure all for killing tire spin. It still lets the tires spin- how much is what the computor has to figure out.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: Aurora Colorado
I've used it and I think it works very well. It spins the tires some, but chop-chop-chops the fuel and spark to hookup. Racing is about consistency, and while you could be a tenth quicker without LC, you could be seconds slower if you blow it at the line, or down the track.
To those who say they don't see the old people doing it in their ZR1's, I say you don't see what you don't see, and that's not accidental. And number 2., I've got trophies on my shelf. I've never seen a trophy girl waiting at the finish line to give you a kiss after a street race, infact I don't even know what your finish line is. Usually what "I" see is the chicken out front backs down and declares victory at the point that he "chickened out."
If I had been fortunate enough in my youth to afford a ZR1, I would have slapped you down with it and taken your lunch money. Think about that the next time you don't see me.
To those who say they don't see the old people doing it in their ZR1's, I say you don't see what you don't see, and that's not accidental. And number 2., I've got trophies on my shelf. I've never seen a trophy girl waiting at the finish line to give you a kiss after a street race, infact I don't even know what your finish line is. Usually what "I" see is the chicken out front backs down and declares victory at the point that he "chickened out."
If I had been fortunate enough in my youth to afford a ZR1, I would have slapped you down with it and taken your lunch money. Think about that the next time you don't see me.
Le Mans Master
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From: Your Sister's Bedroom
I've used it and I think it works very well. It spins the tires some, but chop-chop-chops the fuel and spark to hookup. Racing is about consistency, and while you could be a tenth quicker without LC, you could be seconds slower if you blow it at the line, or down the track.
To those who say they don't see the old people doing it in their ZR1's, I say you don't see what you don't see, and that's not accidental. And number 2., I've got trophies on my shelf. I've never seen a trophy girl waiting at the finish line to give you a kiss after a street race, infact I don't even know what your finish line is. Usually what "I" see is the chicken out front backs down and declares victory at the point that he "chickened out."
If I had been fortunate enough in my youth to afford a ZR1, I would have slapped you down with it and taken your lunch money. Think about that the next time you don't see me.
To those who say they don't see the old people doing it in their ZR1's, I say you don't see what you don't see, and that's not accidental. And number 2., I've got trophies on my shelf. I've never seen a trophy girl waiting at the finish line to give you a kiss after a street race, infact I don't even know what your finish line is. Usually what "I" see is the chicken out front backs down and declares victory at the point that he "chickened out."
If I had been fortunate enough in my youth to afford a ZR1, I would have slapped you down with it and taken your lunch money. Think about that the next time you don't see me.
No one is telling people to Smoke the tires at every stop light, do donuts in the street, or drift the car around every corner.....
Track days included, i just dont seen much participation from the older crowd.... Shoot me for making an observation.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: Aurora Colorado
Its worthless, you can launch the car alot better without it..... And no, its not abusive, thats what these cars were built for.
Contrary to the believe of most people that own these things "the older crowd" (no disrespect intended) these cars were not designed to cruise around in, they were designed to beat the hell out of and take LOADS of abuse.
Contrary to the believe of most people that own these things "the older crowd" (no disrespect intended) these cars were not designed to cruise around in, they were designed to beat the hell out of and take LOADS of abuse.
Well built and capable of some abuse yes, but fundamentally a street car that happens to do well on the track.
I do race, do go to the track, but not in my ZR1. Just because its capable of taking some abuse doesn't mean it's some kind of crime for people to prefer not to wail on it, take life away from it prematurely. I like to keep it like new.
I can be found running laps at High Plains Raceway in Byers Colorado on my BMW S1000RR race bike. I abuse knee sliders and DOT racing tires, but not my Vette.
Racer
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: Brighton Mi.
You might be right, that many of the older guys don't go to the track. Some may have wanted a Vette when they were young ,but paid their kids way through sckool or took care of other things first. Now that they are Old Farts and have the skin. They may not want to beat on it, and have to reinvest on repairs.You will pay it foreward. I drove and beat on these cars in ways few would be able to, at the Proving Grounds . They do take beat down,they may no break but they will ware out.
I have a 4 wheel drive SUV that I don't beat through the woods. Is that wrong as well? It was built to take it.
I do get your point about people that buy vehicles that seem to never be used as they could be. I don't turn the 5.1 Amp up until my ears bleed ,but I do enjoy the music.
I have a 4 wheel drive SUV that I don't beat through the woods. Is that wrong as well? It was built to take it.
I do get your point about people that buy vehicles that seem to never be used as they could be. I don't turn the 5.1 Amp up until my ears bleed ,but I do enjoy the music.
Last edited by BLD.70DRIVERMPG-RET.; Feb 28, 2011 at 05:46 PM.
Instructor
Joined: May 2008
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From: Houston Texas
I've tried the launch control on my 11 Z06 and found it to be more or less worthless. Most of the time the tires go up in smoke, resulting in a much worse launch than even I (as a novice launcher) am capable of doing. Keep in mind that I do have the stock GY gen2 runflats on the car, so I have no idea how the LC would perform with better tires (I hate these gen2's!) Even when presented with conditions in which I can get the car to bite using LC, it often cuts off and the engine spins down part way through the launch, for unknown reasons.
You also have to consider that to activate LC you must be in competitive driving mode, which puts active handling on a more liberal setting. Thus, if you're doing a 1/4 mile you won't have the safety of the nannies when coasting through gears 2-4. Just another reason I'm not a fan of the LC.
To sum it up I've found that, even as a novice driver, I can do better than the LC under most conditions. That being the case, I have to say I've been very disappointed with the LC.
You also have to consider that to activate LC you must be in competitive driving mode, which puts active handling on a more liberal setting. Thus, if you're doing a 1/4 mile you won't have the safety of the nannies when coasting through gears 2-4. Just another reason I'm not a fan of the LC.
To sum it up I've found that, even as a novice driver, I can do better than the LC under most conditions. That being the case, I have to say I've been very disappointed with the LC.
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I think my observations here have been taken out of context.....
No one is telling people to Smoke the tires at every stop light, do donuts in the street, or drift the car around every corner.....
Track days included, i just dont seen much participation from the older crowd.... Shoot me for making an observation.
No one is telling people to Smoke the tires at every stop light, do donuts in the street, or drift the car around every corner.....
Track days included, i just dont seen much participation from the older crowd.... Shoot me for making an observation.
Bill
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The greatest load you put on the drive train is when you get the best acceleration....that seems to be about 2000.
Burnouts cause tire and clutch wear, nothing more.
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From: Martinez California
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From: Mission Viejo CA
Safety Car
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From: Bay Area CA
[QUOTE=breecher_7;1576922229]Your kidding me right? These cars were not set up with LAUNCH CONTROL from the factory to be driven easy, the engineers KNOW these cars are driven hard and they will take LOADS of abuse. You will never hear me crying about **** that breaks on this board, im usually telling people the same thing, pay to play. If you actually know how to drive (proper shifting and such) its damn near impossible to break a C6 in stock form, especially on the stock **** runflats that have no traction.
LAUNCH CONTROL was developed to protect the drivetrain from abusers. LAUNCH CONTROL manages torque output to optimize traction and protect the drivetrain. No, I not kidding you!
Launch control will give you more consistent times, but not necessarily quicker times. Many of the test mags produced quicker times without launch control. I also believe if you know how to launch your car, you don't need it.
LAUNCH CONTROL was developed to protect the drivetrain from abusers. LAUNCH CONTROL manages torque output to optimize traction and protect the drivetrain. No, I not kidding you!
Launch control will give you more consistent times, but not necessarily quicker times. Many of the test mags produced quicker times without launch control. I also believe if you know how to launch your car, you don't need it.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; Mar 1, 2011 at 02:30 AM.
Burning Brakes
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From: Lake Worth FL
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From: Martinez California
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From: Upstate NY
I take care of my vette, I take it up to 120+ every now and then but for the most part just cruise around with the top down and fir get about the world, it's a feeling that every driver describes different.
I take care of and also use my things, but I don't abuse them...
I take care of and also use my things, but I don't abuse them...
I'm with you on that, Bro... same car, same approach to my enjoyment of it.
