BAD NEWS FROM DuPont REP
03-26-2011, 11:26 PM
#41
Racer
Now if we hadn't shipped all our manufacturing capabilities overseas...we could make our own paint. What a revelation!
Just another unemployed American who saw his job go overseas to help the global economy.
Just another unemployed American who saw his job go overseas to help the global economy.
03-27-2011, 10:58 AM
#43
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This may also affect the Z06 Carbon Edition run (which was already on constraint earlier this month) and the final production run for MY2011 which as of December 2010 TOTAL PRODUCTION was 6,946. Last year 12,104 MY2010 C6 units made it out of BG, so the potential exists to come in even lower again for the 3rd year in a row. Further, the remaining dealer inventory of metallic colored 2010 models and existing 2011's may become a little more difficult to deal on beyond the GM offered rebate/incentive programs because of reduced availability should this problem persist and new orders be very limited or not permitted at all.
03-27-2011, 12:06 PM
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03-27-2011, 12:26 PM
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I guess silver will be hard to get since it is used in mixing other colors?
03-27-2011, 12:28 PM
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03-27-2011, 03:03 PM
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If this is indeed true (no official word from GM or others yet) think what is really sad is:
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me.
I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me.
I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.
03-27-2011, 06:37 PM
#49
Le Mans Master
If this is indeed true (no official word from GM or others yet) think what is really sad is:
Yes it's official from both Ford and GM that certain colors have been put on indefinite hold and are not orderable.
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me. I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.
Yes it's official from both Ford and GM that certain colors have been put on indefinite hold and are not orderable.
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me.
I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.Heck, I popped the hood on my new Z06 and "Mitsubishi" in screaming red letters was staring back at me off the serpentine belt.
Like it or not, we have been integrated into the world economy for better or worse.
03-27-2011, 06:40 PM
#50
Team Owner
If this is indeed true (no official word from GM or others yet) think what is really sad is:
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me. I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me.
I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.There are a lot of products made worldwide that are patented and only made in one location. Sometimes business decisions are made on the economic implications and having one manufacturing location makes economic sense. I'm sure the companies in Japan looked at all the likely scenarios that could cause a slowdown/stoppage of production and they didn't think they would ever experience the exact problem they are now having. As smart as we think we are, we can't always plan for everything that might go wrong.
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03-28-2011, 02:37 AM
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If this is indeed true (no official word from GM or others yet) think what is really sad is:
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me. I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me.
I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.Hoping Japan can recover rather quickly for there country's well being and others who depend on them for many things.
03-28-2011, 02:35 PM
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A buddy just got the news from GM on Friday that the CG ZR1 he has on order no paint so he cancled the order and will buy one on a lot somewhere for less as he was going to do the engine build, and museum delivery
03-28-2011, 02:41 PM
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News item over the weekend indicated that Ford was suspending production of black and red cars because of a paint shortage related to the Japanese suppliers and the recent tragedy.
Is this a separate issue with the matallics?
Is this a separate issue with the matallics?
03-28-2011, 02:44 PM
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No, all related. Its actually our red, black, blue and shadow grey are being eliminated. We will officially be completely out of those colors on April 12th.
03-28-2011, 02:47 PM
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If this is indeed true (no official word from GM or others yet) think what is really sad is:
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me. I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.
1.) GM and other large car companies relied on a single source vendor.
2.) That single source vendor has a patent that prohibits duplication. GM should have bought a license to produce it.
3.) Why is it not made in America?!? Are we saying Americans are incapable of producing a metallic flake for car paints? I hope not. If GM used their own flake, or licensed the production of the flake here in the USA, we would not be running into this potential problem.
The whole agreement thing seems flakey to me.
I certainly hope China doesnt have a major disaster or we will all be walking around naked, with no toys for our kids and no cars to drive.Before I was laid off, the medical device company that I worked for announced moving their production to Mexico. Even if the labor is cheap, I do not understand where the highly-skill electronics workers are going to come from in the middle of Mexico.
If China ever decides to cut us off, who will manufacture our shoes, TV's, ....., allmost everything.
03-28-2011, 02:51 PM
#57
Somba master
03-28-2011, 03:51 PM
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I was planning on ordering a new PU in Shadow Grey, is Silver Frost ok?
03-28-2011, 05:41 PM
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