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Since I've read the entire Owner Manual, cover-to-cover, twice; and missed this info...
Today we parked our 2009 Coupe with the windows open and verified that it auto-locked the doors (lights flashed, door would not open without fob nearby). With no fob nearby, the doors would not open nor would the exterior trunk button work. But leaning in through the open window and pushing the trunk button on the dash, did open the trunk and did not set off the alarm.
We tried the same thing with a 2006, except that the doors were locked by pressing the "Lock" button on the fob and verified. Again, leaning in through the open window and pressing the dash button for the trunk, did open the trunk.
Those people who park a convertible with the top down or a coupe with the top removed, but run the windows up; are in fact getting a bit of additional security.
didn't have my fob handy the other day, so I used my spare key that I keep in my wallet to open the trunk. Car is an '08 vert- top was up and windows tightly sealed.
As soon as I pulled the door release cable the driver door popped open and the alarm went off. I was a little disappointed at how short a period of time the alarm sounded before it stopped.
Not too much security if it is that easy, but better than nothing.
I regularly lock my Vert with the top down and I never use the autolock feature. As I get out of the car, I hit the lock button on the door. Done this way, the inside trunk button is deactivated until a fob is near. This way I can lock things in the trunk and still leave the top down. I believe that the coupe works the same way, but I have never checked.
The trunk button near the license plate always requires the fob nearby, even if the car is unlocked.
I regularly lock my Vert with the top down and I never use the autolock feature. As I get out of the car, I hit the lock button on the door. Done this way, the inside trunk button is deactivated until a fob is near. This way I can lock things in the trunk and still leave the top down. I believe that the coupe works the same way, but I have never checked.
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A good point.
However, at least on my car, you must use the "correct" sequence:
Press Unlock button on driver door.
Push Open button on door and swing door open.
Press Lock button on driver door while the fob is still inside the car.
Exit the car and take fob with you.
Close door.
Then, the trunk button on the dash is disarmed like you said.
If I use the same technique except don't press the Lock button on the driver door until I (and the fob) have exited the car, then it reverts to the condition described in post #1- the trunk button remains live even with the doors locked and no fob nearby.
Interesting! I have never tried it any other way because I hit the lock button just after I hit the button to open the door. I always glance at the dash to make sure that the security light is blinking to confirm the door lock. I don't use autolock because my car is only locked about 10% of the time, some it's just easier to lock it when needed. I'm going to do some experimenting now that you have mentioned this. I know that if I push the lock button when I am in the car, the dash light does not come on....I think the dash light blinking is the key to having the trunk button disabled.
In your last paragraph, did you close the door before pushing the lock button, or after?
Interesting! I have never tried it any other way because I hit the lock button just after I hit the button to open the door. I always glance at the dash to make sure that the security light is blinking to confirm the door lock. I don't use autolock because my car is only locked about 10% of the time, some it's just easier to lock it when needed. I'm going to do some experimenting now that you have mentioned this. I know that if I push the lock button when I am in the car, the dash light does not come on....I think the dash light blinking is the key to having the trunk button disabled.
In your last paragraph, did you close the door before pushing the lock button, or after?
In both cases, I push the Lock button after the door has been opened but before re-closing it. The only difference is whether I (and the fob) have exited the car or not, when I push the Lock button.
It's nice that the car will allow you and I to use different procedures for locking the car, but this is starting to look a little too complicated.
All these sequences to be able to open the trunk...well...on my '07 Coupe, I can walk up to the car at any time, push the button up next to the license plate and open the trunk. If I'm inside the car and wish to open the trunk (only when stopped), I can push the inside trunk button and it will work. No fancy this way or that way to do things. I don't use the fob at all other than having it with me.
All these sequences to be able to open the trunk...well...on my '07 Coupe, I can walk up to the car at any time, push the button up next to the license plate and open the trunk. If I'm inside the car and wish to open the trunk (only when stopped), I can push the inside trunk button and it will work. No fancy this way or that way to do things. I don't use the fob at all other than having it with me.
True....not as crucial with a coupe. With my Vert, it is important for me to be able to lock the trunk when the top is down. I never thought much about it...I just do what I have done with every other car I ever owned, I push the lock button on the door as I get out, if I want to lock the car. Fortunate for me that this locks the trunk and disables the dash button also.
Fortunate for me that this locks the trunk and disables the dash button also.
It also disables the horn honking lock notice, the interior door unlock and open switches, yet doesn't disable the fuel door switch.
If someone remains in the car after the fob leaves the area, manually pulling the floor mounted lever is the only way to open the door.
BUT, if you pull the manual lever to open the door, it resets the locks, including the interior door open switch AND the dash trunk switch.
So just because you locked the car in the sequence described and left the windows/top down, simply pulling the lever and pushing the trunk switch will still open the trunk. Of course, it would take someone with either the knowledge or pure dumb luck to do that.
It also disables the horn honking lock notice, the interior door unlock and open switches, yet doesn't disable the fuel door switch.
If someone remains in the car after the fob leaves the area, manually pulling the floor mounted lever is the only way to open the door.
BUT, if you pull the manual lever to open the door, it resets the locks, including the interior door open switch AND the dash trunk switch.
So just because you locked the car in the sequence described and left the windows/top down, simply pulling the lever and pushing the trunk switch will still open the trunk. Of course, it would take someone with either the knowledge or pure dumb luck to do that.
You had me nervous about this so I tried it...the horn started honking but the trunk still would not open and after the horn finally stopped, everything reset and the trunk still would not open. I did not use the fob to stop the honking but let it stop on its own. So at least on my car, the trunk is still secure.
I had to use my earplugs while waiting for the horn to stop in my garage!
All these sequences to be able to open the trunk...well...on my '07 Coupe, I can walk up to the car at any time, push the button up next to the license plate and open the trunk. If I'm inside the car and wish to open the trunk (only when stopped), I can push the inside trunk button and it will work. No fancy this way or that way to do things. I don't use the fob at all other than having it with me.
But since I do have the coupe (2011) am I missing something here? At times I do leave the car with the top off and the windows up. By using the fob to lock the car am I increasing the security some how?
You had me nervous about this so I tried it...the horn started honking but the trunk still would not open and after the horn finally stopped, everything reset and the trunk still would not open. I did not use the fob to stop the honking but let it stop on its own. So at least on my car, the trunk is still secure.
I had to use my earplugs while waiting for the horn to stop in my garage!
OK, so maybe the difference is that my car is normally set on autolock and your's isn't. Or coupes and verts are programmed different. Later today I'll try it without the autolock feature active.
I never leave my windows down or top off unless I can see the car, so the autolock works for me.
I regularly leave the top down when my 07 vert is in the garaged, and more often than not, my golf clubs are in the trunk. If I need to move the clubs from the vert to the other car, I need to go into the house to get the FOB or the trunk will not open. I'm kinda dense, and I've tried many times to open the trunk to avoid having to go back in the house to get the FOB. Never worked once, yet I still keep trying!! I never use the FOB or the door lock the doors, I'm set to autolock.
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