GS-Zero

So today I was on my way to work and made a left at an intersection with a light. I had been stopped and was in first gear through the intersection, and topped out at about 4,000 RPM cruising along behind someone else.

I shifted into second and then saw a police car on the opposite side of the road. The officer was walking out of someone's residence and his car was parked on the side of the road. He made a downward waving motion at me and gave me a rude expression. I figured he wanted me to slow down, so I did. Went to third and took it into grandma-mode, about 25 mph just to appease him, and went on driving.

So a few seconds later I look in my rear view mirror and I see his police cruiser do a PEELING OUT illegal U-turn (yes, he must have spun his tires) and he tries to catch up to me. Lights flashing, siren blaring, the whole nine.

So he pulls up behind me and I pull over. He said I was doing 47 in a 30 mph zone. I asked him if he had gotten his reading from radar and after first saying "I'LL ASK THE QUESTIONS HERE," he soon after said "and yes, I got you on laser."

He also said "I heard you before I even saw you coming." I looked at him plainly and simply said "Officer, not for nothing, but this is a Corvette. It tends to be loud."

I was promptly given a ticket and then made my way to work, as I had been doing.

What I'm wondering is:

A. How did he get me on laser if he wasn't even in his car when he saw me...

B. If he had gotten me on laser, how come my Escort 9500ci with front and rear laser diffusers didn't detect / diffuse it?

Such abuse. These *******s can do whatever it is they please.

ncvette_1FUNRIDE

I guess my first question to you would be "Were you doing 47 in a 30 zone?".

Next, did you ask the officer if you could see the laser gun with your marked speed?

chris12.8

Go to court he probably wont show up.

category4

If the ZR4's did not detect it, you did not get shot with laser. They are crappy jammers, but man are they sensitive to lidar.

Of course there is a new lidar gun on the market that none of the jammer companies have defeated yet. If he had one of those, I doubt it, then I'd say he could have gotten you. The odds he had one of the new guns though is one in a million at best.

Fight it, I bet he does not show in court if he lied, just hoping you will pay up.

What did he mark on the ticket, radar, lidar, visual estimate.

Torchsport

You have to be cautious when your in a high profile (reletively) car.
Another thing you could do is ask to see the radars calibration sticker.

themaffeo

is that even possible at 4k in first?

He probably gave u the ticket for mouthing off i agree, show up to court, he probably won't show.

Tin Star

If the mods removed all the crying over tickets , where would this forum be?

It's a ticket, just pay it and move on.

GS-Zero

The officer was from an independent village (Town of Brookhaven) and is not a Suffolk County Police officer. I have to show up to the Brookhaven Justice Court and from what I hear, they won't even give you a chance to explain yourself. What's more, it's REQUIRED that you show up in court, and they don't even tell you what the fine would be before you get there.

Corvette ED

I bet he was a Mustang owner and hates Corvettes. Fight the ticket!!!

GS-Zero

For next time, I should ask to see the gun and the calibration sticker? What am I looking for?

Vette_DD

No. With the Z51 option pkg, 4000 rpm is approximately 31 mph. Without the Z51 option pkg, 4000 rpm is approximately 34 mph.

mcandrew67

Most agencies aren't required to show you the Gun. If you want the calibration certificate, it is something you need to subpoena to bring to court.

category4

It does not matter how fast he was going, I can take a lidar gun and get a speed of over 80 on a house. If you know the tricks it's easy to make a lidar gun read faster than the actual speed of the car, especially cars like the Vette with a long sloped front.

jpuli28

Good question and he doesn't have to show you, that's what court is for.

Oh he'll show, it's overtime $$$$

You won't see it until court.

And we all don't do as we please

Vettin08

You may as well have said "May I have a ticket please?"

jpuli28

were talking about a govt agency that has to provide calibration documents to support the guns accuracy. And I suppose you believe in the conspiracy theory and oppose "the man"

Torchsport

Not required, but if you ask nicely ...

category4

No I believe in what I see, it's very easy, trust me I have 5 lidar guns and can show you many videos to prove it. It's not calibration I question it's operator error. It's called pan and sweep error.

Think of it this way. Lidar does not measure speed, it measures distance. It then measures the change in distance over time to calculate a speed. If the lidar operator starts targeting the vehicle at the top of the hood near then windshield and then pulls down to the very front at the license plate over say a 1/4 second, he has subtracted 6' that the gun measured and assumes the vehicle traveled. The vehicle did not the lidar beam did as the officer pans down to the correct aim point.

This 6' over a 1/4 second is added to the cars speed, you do the math. 24' per second equals 16 MPH added to your speed. I'll be glad to make a video for you if you need to see it for yourself.

WICKEDFRC

First of all, be honest with yourself and all of us. If you were hot ******* the throttle, and he caught you walking out of someone's house, then man up.....

If you know, without a shadow of a doubt that there is no way you were doing 47 through an intersection with a car in front of you, then I say take it to court and express your concern intelligently. And, refrain from using the New York mobster "Not for nothing" in your plea.

I was once in your shoes too and received a ticket from a ***** cop. I tried to be as respectful as possible, but his attitude towards me warranted my immediate silence. So, I took my case to court.

Before I went to court, I wrote down everything I wanted to address and how I wanted to state it. I rehearsed it over and over. When it came to my case, I plead "Guilty" but asked the Judge if I may present matters of mitigation and extenuating circumstances. The judge said "Plead your case"

(This is not a thread hi-jack, only some knowledge for you to consider)

(In my most humble approach) I stated:

"Your honor, first and foremost, I would like to apologize to the court and the residents of (Town) surrounding XXXX Newport Drive for my infraction that caused inconvenience on (Said date). Your Honor, I was cited for illegal parking in accordance with (State Revised Statute), which I am guilty of. However, I would like to present the following mitigation and extenuation circumstances surrounding my infraction that cause inconvenience that day. Your Honor, on the date of the infraction, I had returned from a 2 year overseas assignment where I lived in Germany, and the state I lived in was inter-connected with two other major cities where parking was not only encouraged on sidewalks, but it was permitted by law. On (Said date) I had only been back for 20 days and without thinking, I had parked my (Description of vehicle as annotated on ticket) half way up the sidewalk as seen in Exhibit A (Photo from Police Officer) At approximately XX:XX hours, my friend's doorbell rang and he came in to get me stating there was a Police Officer outside asking for me. When I went outside, the Officer asked if the vehicle parked on the sidewalk was registered to me and I stated yes. At that time your Honor, the Police Office began to laugh at me, and followed with "You know, I'm just going to have to give you a ticket.....You can't just park however you feel like it." At that moment, my friend (Insert name) began to explain to the Officer that I had just returned from an overseas assigment and didn't mean to." The officer had interrupted my friend and then sarcasticly asked me "Where are you from?" I began to state that I just returned from overseas when he cut me off and said "No, no, no...Where are you from in the States?" I respectfully responded, "New York, Sir." The Officer replied with "So, I guess you New Yorkers can just park however you feel like, huh?" At this time, my buddy went inside because the Officer was beginning to become unprofessional. Knowing I had not been in New York for over 20 years, I did not want to challenge his authority or seem disrespectful in return Ma'am. I said nothing. As we walked out to the street, the Officer pointed at his patrol car and identified that he had no camera, took no photos, and stated that "Being military, I trust you will do the right thing, and pay the ticket." Before he left, I had asked "Sir, with all due respect, what is the rule of thumb when it comes to parking on soft curbs like this because I see it quite often and do not wish to be cited again." He said "Usually, no more than 18 inches and you will be fine." At that time, your Honor, I clearly identified and pointed at another vehicle directly across the street which was parked well over 18 inches up onto the sidewalk and I had asked "So what is the difference there?" The Officer just looked at me, ripped the ticket from his pad and with a sarcastic tone stated "I have police discretion" then handed me the ticket and walked off.

Ma'am, I am not here to dispute the infraction. I am only asking the court for leniency with the fine associated with my infraction that day, because what I did was only out of force of habit and not with malicious intent. Ma'am, I ask that you consider my mitigation and extenuating circumstances in your decision and assure you that this was an isolated incident and will never happen again. That is all, your Honor."

The Judge shuffled some papers areound, stamped something, then said "The State finds you guilty for (Revised Statue - Illegal Parking) and waives all fees associated with the ticket. You are dismissed."

So, remember, it is how well you present yourself to the court and I am sure the Judge caught on to what I was saying about how the Officer LIED about not taking any photographs (obviously, to entrap me should I go to court) and then showed up in court with two 5 x 7 Glossy photos of my vehicle parked on the sidewalk. Unfortunately for him, I wasn't there to lie my way through a ticket.

Good luck.

ncvette_1FUNRIDE

He said he shifted into second.