tires in the rain
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tires in the rain
I'm getting ready for a new set of tires (have nitto invo now) and am wondering what the best is for the rain... I live in florida and drive my vette 90 miles one way to work -- in the summer, we have afternoon downpours with a lot of standing water on some of the roads I travel.
My brother (a viper owner) says i will hate runflats for the noise (i bought used and have never owned runflats on this car)...
I haven't had the car on the track yet, hope to try it sometime, but that's not my main concern. any advice?
My brother (a viper owner) says i will hate runflats for the noise (i bought used and have never owned runflats on this car)...
I haven't had the car on the track yet, hope to try it sometime, but that's not my main concern. any advice?
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I, too, hate run-flats. I run Falkens now for two years (not a dd) and have had 0 issues. I don't really drive mine in the rain since my near-serious hydroplaning incident a few years ago. Vettes don't like puddles in any case. Width of the tires makes this car prone to hydroplaning. Btw, I've also had good performance from Kumho tires. They are a good value. I do not race.
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I bought my 2007 coupe used and it came with a set of Nitto Invos. So I never had run-flats either.
The Nittos have about 3000 on them and are in great shape, but I wanted run-flats, so I just bought a set of Michelin AS-ZP's. They are just as quiet as the Nittos. I have not used them in the rain yet, but I am sure they will handle fine. They are great on dry pavement.
The Nittos have about 3000 on them and are in great shape, but I wanted run-flats, so I just bought a set of Michelin AS-ZP's. They are just as quiet as the Nittos. I have not used them in the rain yet, but I am sure they will handle fine. They are great on dry pavement.
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The Michelin PS2 ZP (non-A/S) is excellent in rain, subject to the usual disclaimers about not attempting anything crazy. It doesn't take too much standing water to overwhelm any tire at speed.
I've had GY F1 Supercars, GY GS-D3s (the celebrated rain-meister tire) and PS2 ZPs on this car, and the Michelins are the best in _all_ conditions.
If I lived in Florida, I wouldn't put all-season tires on my Corvette.
I've had GY F1 Supercars, GY GS-D3s (the celebrated rain-meister tire) and PS2 ZPs on this car, and the Michelins are the best in _all_ conditions.
If I lived in Florida, I wouldn't put all-season tires on my Corvette.
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But the Michelin A/S would be a great tire even if they weren't A/S.
We have both the PS2 runflats and A/S runflats (two set of wheels). The PS2 have somewhat more grip during warm weather if you are cornering really had. That's their only advantage. The A/S are softer, quieter, grip better in temps below 50', and last longer. For most people, they are the better tire.
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The Michelin PS2 ZP (non-A/S) is excellent in rain, subject to the usual disclaimers about not attempting anything crazy. It doesn't take too much standing water to overwhelm any tire at speed.
I've had GY F1 Supercars, GY GS-D3s (the celebrated rain-meister tire) and PS2 ZPs on this car, and the Michelins are the best in _all_ conditions.
If I lived in Florida, I wouldn't put all-season tires on my Corvette.
I've had GY F1 Supercars, GY GS-D3s (the celebrated rain-meister tire) and PS2 ZPs on this car, and the Michelins are the best in _all_ conditions.
If I lived in Florida, I wouldn't put all-season tires on my Corvette.
The PS2 ZP's have excellent wet traction. These tires have constantly exceeded my expectations.
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I changed the Goodyear F1 Supercar runflats (brutal for hydroplaning) to a set of Firestone Wide Oval Indy 500 (Non runflats) and night and day difference for noise, and no hydroplaning, even on highways that puddle water. Highly recommend. I now have 12000 miles on these and still really good in the rain.
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I'm getting ready for a new set of tires (have nitto invo now) and am wondering what the best is for the rain... I live in florida and drive my vette 90 miles one way to work -- in the summer, we have afternoon downpours with a lot of standing water on some of the roads I travel.
My brother (a viper owner) says i will hate runflats for the noise (i bought used and have never owned runflats on this car)...
I haven't had the car on the track yet, hope to try it sometime, but that's not my main concern. any advice?
My brother (a viper owner) says i will hate runflats for the noise (i bought used and have never owned runflats on this car)...
I haven't had the car on the track yet, hope to try it sometime, but that's not my main concern. any advice?
Yes, they may not have the dry grip of Summer Only tires.
But unless you plan on pushing the limits of dry tire grip on the street, most people will be hard pressed to notice a difference.
They are still High Performance tires and probably the most positive reviewed tire for "all around driving conditions".
They have excellent cold weather grip and a high milage rating.
Also, don't be afraid of the Run Flats.
Run Flats have come a long way in just the last few years.
And IMO, Michelins tires are quiet, ride great and stand up to the Michelin name.
In the end, You have to decide what you want ( 90 miles one way every day ) considering how you use the car and the way you drive.
You may want something else, but do a search and see what you find to see what suits your needs best.
Just my 2 cents
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I'm having a set of these put on my '08 this Thursday. Longer wear, less noise, still safety on the road for us women! I can't believe how many tire threads are out there right now.
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I changed the Goodyear F1 Supercar runflats (brutal for hydroplaning) to a set of Firestone Wide Oval Indy 500 (Non runflats) and night and day difference for noise, and no hydroplaning, even on highways that puddle water. Highly recommend. I now have 12000 miles on these and still really good in the rain.
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I agree with the many posts above regarding Michelin Pilot Sport All Season Plus Zero Pressure (runflat) tires. They are quiet, smooth riding, handle great and, unlike typical summer performance tires, are good at temperatures below 50 degrees F. and in wet conditions, plus they have a wear warranty of 45,000 miles along with the security of having run-flat capability. Don't take your brother's advise, he is laboring under obsolete beliefs about runflats, which incidently also outperform non-runflats regarding steering response because of their stiffer sidewalls.
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Just got a set of Michellin Pilot Sport A/S tires to replace the original Goodyears. left the tire store in a driving rani the difference was dramatic to say the least. The Michellins had amazing grip, unlike the Goodyears, and are a lot quieter. They are also the concensus tire on the forum which is why I bought them. thanks to all forum writers.
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Just got a set of Michellin Pilot Sport A/S tires to replace the original Goodyears. left the tire store in a driving rani the difference was dramatic to say the least. The Michellins had amazing grip, unlike the Goodyears, and are a lot quieter. They are also the concensus tire on the forum which is why I bought them. thanks to all forum writers.
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Drive wisely understanding what 400 HP can do to a 3,200 pound Corvette.
I put Michelin A/S ZP on my C5 a few years ago. They are stable in the rain & Chicago snow, quiet, and ride smoother than the GY RF.
I have a set of Michelin A/S Plus ZP on order for my C6. I am fed up with the GYs after only 18,000 miles.
I put Michelin A/S ZP on my C5 a few years ago. They are stable in the rain & Chicago snow, quiet, and ride smoother than the GY RF.
I have a set of Michelin A/S Plus ZP on order for my C6. I am fed up with the GYs after only 18,000 miles.