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The bone stock ZR1 just recorded 7:19:63 vs this vulkan Racing preped Viper with serious track time. I would not be surprised given the same amount of prep and track time that the ZR1 would come out on top.
I also think there should be standards surrounding these nurburgring runs. To much left up to each manufacture including keeping time and prep. But that's perhaps a story for another thread.
The bone stock ZR1 just recorded 7:19:63 vs this vulkan Racing preped Viper with serious track time. I would not be surprised given the same amount of prep and track time that the ZR1 would come out on top.
I also think there should be standards surrounding these nurburgring runs. To much left up to each manufacture including keeping time and prep. But that's perhaps a story for another thread.
And from what I am reading it seems like the Vipers over at the ring are private owners cars? I saw a TEXAS plate on one?
The ZR1 Nurbrugring time of 7:19.63 set back in June of 2011 was set by Jim Mero, Corvette Chassis Development Engineer, NOT a Corvette Racing Driver. Jim is very good, I'm not knocking him, BUT he's an engineer.
Let Jan Magnussen or Ollie Gavin at the wheel and I'd bet that record wld be topped....
The ZR1 Nurbrugring time of 7:19.63 set back in June of 2011 was set by Jim Mero, Corvette Chassis Development Engineer, NOT a Corvette Racing Driver. Jim is very good, I'm not knocking him, BUT he's an engineer.
Let Jan Magnussen or Ollie Gavin at the wheel and I'd bet that record wld be topped....
Just sayin...........
This is slightly debatable...I get your rational but the reason most engineers set these lap records is due to the amount of seat time they have seen at the ring from being an engineer....likewise, you could have someone who is no doubt a skilled driver but does not have as much seat time at the ring and/or would not be able to give the proper feedback as an engineer who is a part of developing the product.
Unless you have a mouse in your pocket, 'WE' won't be doing didly.
Thing is, from reading the text, this isn't a 'factory' effort like the Corvette or LFA efforts, so big deal really. Build a ringer base vette and go take the title, it would mean the same.
This is slightly debatable...I get your rational but the reason most engineers set these lap records is due to the amount of seat time they have seen at the ring from being an engineer....likewise, you could have someone who is no doubt a skilled driver but does not have as much seat time at the ring and/or would not be able to give the proper feedback as an engineer who is a part of developing the product.
Actually you're statement is supported by the interview in the most recent vette magazine.
Unless you have a mouse in your pocket, 'WE' won't be doing didly.
Thing is, from reading the text, this isn't a 'factory' effort like the Corvette or LFA efforts, so big deal really. Build a ringer base vette and go take the title, it would mean the same.
Actually you're statement is supported by the interview in the most recent vette magazine.
I know that it is supported, a while ago my friend, who is in Germany for duty, sent me a link to a documentary on the ring....interesting stuff....the media wants a #1 time and so do owners or prospective owners but one thing many forget is that the point of going to such a diverse track is to tune and develop the vehicles....if in the process the car is capable of, or does well enough to set a record then so be it. It is a research process for them more than the guiness process we see it as today.
The ZR1 Nurbrugring time of 7:19.63 set back in June of 2011 was set by Jim Mero, Corvette Chassis Development Engineer, NOT a Corvette Racing Driver. Jim is very good, I'm not knocking him, BUT he's an engineer.
Let Jan Magnussen or Ollie Gavin at the wheel and I'd bet that record wld be topped....
Just sayin...........
Jim has actually and consistantly beaten Jan's time at the ring in stock Corvettes which is why he does the ring development drives. Simple fact, easily verifiable. He has more seat time in factory Corvettes at the ring than anyone. Bottom line, and no knock on Jan or any of the factory racing drivers but they drive track prepped cars with considerably more down force than stock. Since the OEM's basically get 30 minutes at the end of a public run to do their hot laps, it takes the factory drivers more time to simply get comfortable in the car. Jim did that last record in two laps. One out lap, one record lap which is why Jim gets the nod when they need a record.
I know that it is supported, a while ago my friend, who is in Germany for duty, sent me a link to a documentary on the ring....interesting stuff....the media wants a #1 time and so do owners or prospective owners but one thing many forget is that the point of going to such a diverse track is to tune and develop the vehicles....if in the process the car is capable of, or does well enough to set a record then so be it. It is a research process for them more than the guiness process we see it as today.
Right...but i do like to see a vette with the best time. I'll never grow up.
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