Does Your Automatic Rough Shift When Cold?
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Redmond WA
What do you mean by rough? I've driven ours in temps in the 20's after sitting outside in that temp for a few hours. The engine upshift RPMs are higher initially to help with lighting of the catalysts, so it's not as smooth as when warmed up, but not "rough".
Team Owner
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From: Far NW 'burbs of Chicago
St. Jude Donor '13
2009 coupe A6 w/performance axle.
The first couple of shifts when cold are a bit rougher than normal; but heck, calling them "rough" is an exaggeration. No one else in the car ever notices.
Been that way for 39k miles, I don't see it as a problem.
The first couple of shifts when cold are a bit rougher than normal; but heck, calling them "rough" is an exaggeration. No one else in the car ever notices.
Been that way for 39k miles, I don't see it as a problem.
Le Mans Master
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From: Ft. Myers FL
I've found that my A6 shifts a little weird until the tranny fluid is about 150 deg. or higher. What mine does when it's really cold at first, for maybe a mile max, is the shifts have a slghtly longer hesitation between shifts. Once it's warmed up it doesn't matter if it's 15 degrees or 80 out. One time I went to the track and it was a cold day in the 30's. We had a long wait between runs and when I went out the shift between 2nd & 3rd took so long I thought the trans was slipping or worse. Scared the crap out of me.
However, a couple of other guys there said the fluid was still too cold and the solenoid's work slower. Go out and hammer it again. Now I know what it is and don't expect it to shift right till it's warmed up. By the way, once warmed up, on a 1/3 pedal it shifts fast enough to break a little rubber. 
However, a couple of other guys there said the fluid was still too cold and the solenoid's work slower. Go out and hammer it again. Now I know what it is and don't expect it to shift right till it's warmed up. By the way, once warmed up, on a 1/3 pedal it shifts fast enough to break a little rubber.
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Drifting
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From: TX
Do some research on PIP 4395.
Condition/Concern:
Some customers may comment on a flare or harsh 2-3 shift.
Recommendation/Instructions:
This condition may be caused by leaking 1-2-3-4 and 3-5-R clutch fluid seal rings (230). The following conditions are indications that the fluid seal rings may be leaking:
• Delayed/extended or delayed with harsh feel initial Park to Drive and/or Reverse to Drive shifts, that are more likely to occur when the transmission temperature is below approximately 40 degree C (104 degree F).
• Harsh or flaring 2-3 shifts that are more likely to occur when the transmission fluid temperature is in the approximately 0 degree C (32 degree F) to 40 degree C (104 degree F) temperature range, but can be present at any temperature.
• Harsh 2-3 shifts that are more likely to occur at less than 50% tp.
Vehicles built in the January through August, 2007 time frame are more likely to have leaking fluid seal rings
Important: When inspecting the 1-2-3-4 and 3-5-R clutch fluid seal rings (230) there probably will not be visible signs that the seal rings are damaged.
If any of the conditions above describe the flare/harsh 2-3 shift condition replace the 1-2-3-4 and 3-5-R clutch fluid seal rings (230), DO NOT replace the valve body or TCM.
Some customers may comment on a flare or harsh 2-3 shift.
Recommendation/Instructions:
This condition may be caused by leaking 1-2-3-4 and 3-5-R clutch fluid seal rings (230). The following conditions are indications that the fluid seal rings may be leaking:
• Delayed/extended or delayed with harsh feel initial Park to Drive and/or Reverse to Drive shifts, that are more likely to occur when the transmission temperature is below approximately 40 degree C (104 degree F).
• Harsh or flaring 2-3 shifts that are more likely to occur when the transmission fluid temperature is in the approximately 0 degree C (32 degree F) to 40 degree C (104 degree F) temperature range, but can be present at any temperature.
• Harsh 2-3 shifts that are more likely to occur at less than 50% tp.
Vehicles built in the January through August, 2007 time frame are more likely to have leaking fluid seal rings
Important: When inspecting the 1-2-3-4 and 3-5-R clutch fluid seal rings (230) there probably will not be visible signs that the seal rings are damaged.
If any of the conditions above describe the flare/harsh 2-3 shift condition replace the 1-2-3-4 and 3-5-R clutch fluid seal rings (230), DO NOT replace the valve body or TCM.
Last edited by CSixDude; Jan 24, 2012 at 10:19 AM.
