Opinions Please
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Burning Brakes
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From: Kansas City MO
Opinions Please
I traded my 2007 Vette for a 2011 392 Challenger. I needed a fun car with seats for me, my daughter and grand daughter to go to the track and car sows in one car.
Well, I am loving the challenger but want another vette. my 2007 was a base model and my next vette I want to have a fun car with the goal being a car that get close to 200mph in a 1 mile course. again for fun and not wanting to be obsessed with it. I want a car that will be a highway top end car. not wanting to take it to the 1/4 mile or any road rally courses, just a car to see how close I can get to a 200mph car on one of the 1 mile tracks.
I am pretty sure I want to stick to a C6 because I do not like the pop up lights on a C5 even though I like the look of the C5 as much as the C6.
one option is find a nice older base model C6 and swap motors for a crate engine or forced induction on an LS3 C6.
I want to keep the car price below 30-35K and figure 10-15kk for go fast parts to meet the goal.
Or should I get a C5 and the extra money saved between the cost of C5 vs C6 will give me more dollars toward go fast parts.
what do you think? Opinions please. this vette would be a fun toy for spirited closed highway and 1 mile attempts.
Well, I am loving the challenger but want another vette. my 2007 was a base model and my next vette I want to have a fun car with the goal being a car that get close to 200mph in a 1 mile course. again for fun and not wanting to be obsessed with it. I want a car that will be a highway top end car. not wanting to take it to the 1/4 mile or any road rally courses, just a car to see how close I can get to a 200mph car on one of the 1 mile tracks.
I am pretty sure I want to stick to a C6 because I do not like the pop up lights on a C5 even though I like the look of the C5 as much as the C6.
one option is find a nice older base model C6 and swap motors for a crate engine or forced induction on an LS3 C6.
I want to keep the car price below 30-35K and figure 10-15kk for go fast parts to meet the goal.
Or should I get a C5 and the extra money saved between the cost of C5 vs C6 will give me more dollars toward go fast parts.
what do you think? Opinions please. this vette would be a fun toy for spirited closed highway and 1 mile attempts.
Instructor
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From: Harrisburg PA
1LT C6 for sure... I would say just get a 2005 1LT for low 20's if you're going to do a completely built motor, but the 2008+ cars do offer a stronger trans (TR6060 vs T56) and an upgraded rear end. I bought an '08 1LT NEW for 41k, and you can find a good used example in the low 30's, maybe even high 20's for a higher mileage car. I don't think a Z06 would be the way to go if you're going to do a built motor, you'd be better off getting a 1LT base car and using the extra money for motor / suspension / drivetrain upgrades. A 1LT 2008 would be my recommendation.
Instructor
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From: lakeville mass
buy the c6 you like ,,get a turbo,and a set of gears, and some big brakes.and go 200....
and you will still be real fast in the 1/4 mile..
c6 $35000...turbo $5000...gears $1000..brakes $1500...and you will have change to buy a short block if you blow it up.....have fun.....
and you will still be real fast in the 1/4 mile..c6 $35000...turbo $5000...gears $1000..brakes $1500...and you will have change to buy a short block if you blow it up.....have fun.....
Safety Car
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From: Cary NC
I don't think even a Hennessey ZR 1 will hit 200 in a mile. Check out the Buggati. The Texas Mile people will chime in, but I think you'll need at least 800-1000 hp.
I think the first vette to hit 200 in the Texs mile was that 1428hp Hinson Z06. I have no idea what that would cost you, but 1000 rwhp would probably do it if the weather was right.
I think the first vette to hit 200 in the Texs mile was that 1428hp Hinson Z06. I have no idea what that would cost you, but 1000 rwhp would probably do it if the weather was right.
Last edited by CaryBob; Mar 3, 2012 at 08:32 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Kansas City MO
thanks for the replies. would love a Z06 but doubt I can find a nice one for under 35k. I will pay off the car before spending the extra 15k on go fast parts. thats why I am limiting myself to 35k. I can pay that off in about 18 months. once the car is paid for then I will put money into go fast parts. I know I won't hit 200mph but want a car that will get close. 190's would be very cool.
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '12
I traded my 2007 Vette for a 2011 392 Challenger. I needed a fun car with seats for me, my daughter and grand daughter to go to the track and car sows in one car.
Well, I am loving the challenger but want another vette. my 2007 was a base model and my next vette I want to have a fun car with the goal being a car that get close to 200mph in a 1 mile course. again for fun and not wanting to be obsessed with it. I want a car that will be a highway top end car. not wanting to take it to the 1/4 mile or any road rally courses, just a car to see how close I can get to a 200mph car on one of the 1 mile tracks.
I am pretty sure I want to stick to a C6 because I do not like the pop up lights on a C5 even though I like the look of the C5 as much as the C6.
one option is find a nice older base model C6 and swap motors for a crate engine or forced induction on an LS3 C6.
I want to keep the car price below 30-35K and figure 10-15kk for go fast parts to meet the goal.
Or should I get a C5 and the extra money saved between the cost of C5 vs C6 will give me more dollars toward go fast parts.
what do you think? Opinions please. this vette would be a fun toy for spirited closed highway and 1 mile attempts.
Well, I am loving the challenger but want another vette. my 2007 was a base model and my next vette I want to have a fun car with the goal being a car that get close to 200mph in a 1 mile course. again for fun and not wanting to be obsessed with it. I want a car that will be a highway top end car. not wanting to take it to the 1/4 mile or any road rally courses, just a car to see how close I can get to a 200mph car on one of the 1 mile tracks.
I am pretty sure I want to stick to a C6 because I do not like the pop up lights on a C5 even though I like the look of the C5 as much as the C6.
one option is find a nice older base model C6 and swap motors for a crate engine or forced induction on an LS3 C6.
I want to keep the car price below 30-35K and figure 10-15kk for go fast parts to meet the goal.
Or should I get a C5 and the extra money saved between the cost of C5 vs C6 will give me more dollars toward go fast parts.
what do you think? Opinions please. this vette would be a fun toy for spirited closed highway and 1 mile attempts.
) so, why not shop for a Z06???
Pro
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From: South of I-64 Illinois
thanks for the replies. would love a Z06 but doubt I can find a nice one for under 35k. I will pay off the car before spending the extra 15k on go fast parts. thats why I am limiting myself to 35k. I can pay that off in about 18 months. once the car is paid for then I will put money into go fast parts. I know I won't hit 200mph but want a car that will get close. 190's would be very cool.
The Consigliere
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From: 2023 Z06 & 2010 ZR1
You need 850 - 900 hp to the wheels to hit 200 in a mile (i.e. well north of 1,000 hp at the crank).
My stock ZR did 180+ mph at the mile.
If 200 at the mile is your criteria you'll need a purpose built engine. And it won't be cheap.
My stock ZR did 180+ mph at the mile.
If 200 at the mile is your criteria you'll need a purpose built engine. And it won't be cheap.
Former Vendor
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From: Callaway Cars - Old Lyme, Connecticut
These powerful cars were capable of running 191 mph off the showroom floor when equipped with our AeroBody package.
More info at www.callawaycars.com and www.callawayownersgroup.com
I hope this info is helpful
Instructor
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From: Harrisburg PA
I'm not sure why everyone is telling the guy to drop 50k on a used Z06 when that is clearly not what he is looking to do. If his entire budget is 50k, there's no way in hell he is going to buy a stock Z06 and get it to run 200mph in the mile for a couple grand. A stock longblock LS3 is arguably a better foundation to begin with anyways if you're going to boost it; that's why GM chose to use it as a foundation for the blown LS9 ZR1 motor.
Some ECS cars are making around 800rwhp on stock LS3 internals with just their base (SC1500) blower kit, a dual nozzle meth kit, a blower cam, their stage 1 fuel system, and a full exhaust. That would leave you a few grand left to spend on suspension and drivetrain mods. I'm not sure if that will get you 200mph, but it should get you pretty darn close.
Some ECS cars are making around 800rwhp on stock LS3 internals with just their base (SC1500) blower kit, a dual nozzle meth kit, a blower cam, their stage 1 fuel system, and a full exhaust. That would leave you a few grand left to spend on suspension and drivetrain mods. I'm not sure if that will get you 200mph, but it should get you pretty darn close.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Kansas City MO
I'm not sure why everyone is telling the guy to drop 50k on a used Z06 when that is clearly not what he is looking to do. If his entire budget is 50k, there's no way in hell he is going to buy a stock Z06 and get it to run 200mph in the mile for a couple grand. A stock longblock LS3 is arguably a better foundation to begin with anyways if you're going to boost it; that's why GM chose to use it as a foundation for the blown LS9 ZR1 motor.
Some ECS cars are making around 800rwhp on stock LS3 internals with just their base (SC1500) blower kit, a dual nozzle meth kit, a blower cam, their stage 1 fuel system, and a full exhaust. That would leave you a few grand left to spend on suspension and drivetrain mods. I'm not sure if that will get you 200mph, but it should get you pretty darn close.
Some ECS cars are making around 800rwhp on stock LS3 internals with just their base (SC1500) blower kit, a dual nozzle meth kit, a blower cam, their stage 1 fuel system, and a full exhaust. That would leave you a few grand left to spend on suspension and drivetrain mods. I'm not sure if that will get you 200mph, but it should get you pretty darn close.
thanks, you got it. I do not finance more than one toy at a time. I finance for 4 years but usually pay off in less that 2 years. once a toy is paid for then I put money into it.
Like I said, I want to limit this toy to 35k so I can pay it off fairly fast (18 months) and then stick 12-15k into it. I want a car that is in good condition (interior, exterior) and then figure out what to do to motor, driveline to get a fun toy. don't want to go over 50k because still want another toy after that.
goal is to have
challenger 392 (have now)
Mustang probably Boss
C6 vette for highway/ 1 mile fun toy
then an ACR Viper, figure if I wait 3 more years on viper I might be able to get one for around 50k.