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04-26-2012, 10:28 AM
#21
Drifting
Hi guys. New guy here. I have a Q hoping someone can answer or at least advise. I have a 08 LS3 auto. Anyone know how much HP or torque a stock tranny will handle b4 reqr'ing modification? I was told maybe 540 ft lbs max. I have the basics right now intake & exh. Thinking bout Kooks headers but Im afraid that the auto tranny cant handle the added HP/torq. GSXRGUY u mentioned ur buddies vette w auto. Im sure he beefed up his tranny to run 10s. Im jus trying to add basic pieces and maybe get 520hp flywheel. Any1 know or heard anything about the auto tranny? Any advice would be helpful. Thx.
When I went to my new set up I pulled the trans and sent it to Century Transmission so Mike could work his magic on it. It cost around 2K to have him beef my trans up with better stuff. I am now over 500hp at the wheel and my best time to date has been a 6.6 1/8 mile with a 1.4 second 60'. This is with the front tires listed in my signiture and a set of 17" Hoosier drag slicks. 1/8 mile racing is much easier on the 6L80 trans because you are only using 1, 2, 3, gears unless you change your rear gear. It is the upper gears where you start burning clutches on a stock trans when your power level gets real high.
PS: change your trans mount to Pfadt polly mounts! Wheel hop will break parts every time and I have never had wheel hop sense I changed from the factory mounts.
04-26-2012, 09:45 PM
#24
Drifting
MY 08 C6 A6 was the first LS3 bolt-on to get into the 10's. Since then ..many have . Just check this forums fast LIST for more info. According to the list there are 6 bolt-on cars that have gotten into the 10's(LS2's and LS3's).
Last edited by theofel; 04-26-2012 at 09:58 PM.
04-26-2012, 10:30 PM
#25
Le Mans Master
Really now, so how many bolt on C6 automatics have run 10's let alone low 11 second times with the stock converter
. Manual cars can launch at varied RPMs. Our automatic equiped cars do not have the ability to launch higher than the stock stall speed.
A higher than stock stall converter will not only allow the car to launch at a higher rpm but also allows for shift extensions depending upon the converter and the STR.
Oh & BTW since I know nothing about what I am typing, please check my times on my profile
Last edited by Tommy D; 04-26-2012 at 11:24 PM. Reason: add bolt on
04-27-2012, 12:09 AM
#26
Pro
Really now, so how many bolt on C6 automatics have run 10's let alone low 11 second times with the stock converter .
Manual cars can launch at varied RPMs. Our automatic equiped cars do not have the ability to launch higher than the stock stall speed.
A higher than stock stall converter will not only allow the car to launch at a higher rpm but also allows for shift extensions depending upon the converter and the STR.
Oh & BTW since I know nothing about what I am typing, please check my times on my profile
. Manual cars can launch at varied RPMs. Our automatic equiped cars do not have the ability to launch higher than the stock stall speed.
A higher than stock stall converter will not only allow the car to launch at a higher rpm but also allows for shift extensions depending upon the converter and the STR.
Oh & BTW since I know nothing about what I am typing, please check my times on my profile
06-12-2012, 11:38 AM
#30
Le Mans Master
On our list no, but I am sure there are a few more out there
BTW there are a few of us with 11.1x times that could easily become 10.xx times with a bit more weight reduction or another bolt on.
06-12-2012, 02:18 PM
#31
Safety Car
Another Point of View.
Some of us who are interested in bracket racing may not be interested in going any faster than an 11.50 due to cage rules!!! Bolt-ons that I don't have below:
If a 25% underdrive pulley, ported throttle body, skinny light front wheels and drag radials on 17" C5 wheels and the right high stall converter over the OEM stocker is worth a half second with the weather right, hell I may be able to pull a ten second time slip running with a 1/4 tank of gas in a heavy GS.
Maybe even without a few of the above mention mods. I really think I could do it on the stock runflats to booth.
PS: But as we all know, could of, would of, etc. never counts until you do it. Until then it's just a half-a$$ pipe dream!
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 06-12-2012 at 02:38 PM.
06-13-2012, 02:32 PM
#32
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Running in the 11's is no small feat either
It's not for everyone, but the premise of "not having to spend $10k plus to run quicker than a lot of cars that cost $100k plus is definitely fun"
06-14-2012, 12:06 AM
#33
Pro
Some of us who are interested in bracket racing may not be interested in going any faster than an 11.50 due to cage rules!!! Bolt-ons that I don't have below:
If a 25% underdrive pulley, ported throttle body, skinny light front wheels and drag radials on 17" C5 wheels and the right high stall converter over the OEM stocker is worth a half second with the weather right, hell I may be able to pull a ten second time slip running with a 1/4 tank of gas in a heavy GS.
Maybe even without a few of the above mention mods. I really think I could do it on the stock runflats to booth.
PS: But as we all know, could of, would of, etc. never counts until you do it. Until then it's just a half-a$$ pipe dream!
06-14-2012, 03:47 AM
#34
Safety Car
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 06-14-2012 at 03:51 AM.
06-14-2012, 10:01 AM
#35
Pro
I would need/use a 3600 RPM rated stall torque converter. I have a 3500 "non-lockup" rated stall on my air conditioned street driven 9 second V6 turbo Buick running drag radials which believe it or not drives just about the same as when it was stock. A 3600 stall would get me closer to the engines torque peak. A 4000 stall is good for a very low 1.4 60 ft. time from what I have seen/read on here but may give that slipping feel as you come away from a stop under "light" throttle, I don't know; so "if" I did a converter it would be the 3600 which is still good for 1.4's if you have the power/torque to push it. Also most here that use the 3600 stall say it drives find on the street.
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
06-14-2012, 01:39 PM
#36
Le Mans Master
I would need/use a 3600 RPM rated stall torque converter. I have a 3500 "non-lockup" rated stall on my air conditioned street driven 9 second V6 turbo Buick running drag radials which believe it or not drives just about the same as when it was stock. A 3600 stall would get me closer to the engines torque peak. A 4000 stall is good for a very low 1.4 60 ft. time from what I have seen/read on here but may give that slipping feel as you come away from a stop under "light" throttle, I don't know; so "if" I did a converter it would be the 3600 which is still good for 1.4's if you have the power/torque to push it. Also most here that use the 3600 stall say it drives find on the street.
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
Yes, but there are those of us who have lower stalls in the 2800 - 3200 range and run 1.5x sixty footswith low 11 ET's too. It depends upon the STR and trans tune. The devil is in the details as there are many ways to max out a bolt on combonation that will result in very fast times. Weight reduction is one of the key items to that low eleven second time slip.
06-14-2012, 01:43 PM
#37
Le Mans Master
I would need/use a 3600 RPM rated stall torque converter. I have a 3500 "non-lockup" rated stall on my air conditioned street driven 9 second V6 turbo Buick running drag radials which believe it or not drives just about the same as when it was stock. A 3600 stall would get me closer to the engines torque peak. A 4000 stall is good for a very low 1.4 60 ft. time from what I have seen/read on here but may give that slipping feel as you come away from a stop under "light" throttle, I don't know; so "if" I did a converter it would be the 3600 which is still good for 1.4's if you have the power/torque to push it. Also most here that use the 3600 stall say it drives find on the street.
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
I have also read that people who have tried a 2800/3000 stall later stepped up to a 3400/3600 which improved their cars 60 ft. times noticeably.
captainbob, a supercharged car makes more torque down low so a lower stall (2800) converter may be fine (do it) but a 3400/3600 stall will still put down a better 60 ft. than the 2800 stall on a supercharged vette (if the tires hold) because the car is making more power at the higher stall speed, does that make sense to you, just MHO from personal experience.
Over the years I have seen several unmodified A6's go south with power adders at track rentals. The NA cars run & run as in Chris (thesubfloor) The only 3 NA cars to destroy a A6 were Mike & Tony besides Chris. Tony's went boom because of a tuning problem and Chris lost one in the very early days of adding gears. I do not recall what happened with Mikle as he was in the race to run a 10 second quarter mile.In any event it is possibly better to upgrade a A6 prior to installing a Supercharger or turbo.
and hopefully Bob's Supercharged GS will prove me incorrect
Last edited by Tommy D; 06-14-2012 at 01:54 PM.
06-14-2012, 03:58 PM
#38
Safety Car
Performance and longevity together!
And it's soooooo much easier on parts. Parts that break in a heavier car may never break in a lighter car and the lighter car will go much faster with the same engine to booth. I clock in at 260 lbs. so to save expense, car & health it's time to bite the bullet.
Disclaimer: I have been giving a weight reduction program of some type on and off attempts for awhile now with no luck. The/my flesh is weak, errr the mind!
But I have not given up yet!!!
Last edited by C7/Z06 Man; 06-14-2012 at 04:25 PM.
06-14-2012, 07:21 PM
#39
Le Mans Master
And it's soooooo much easier on parts. Parts that break in a heavier car may never break in a lighter car and the lighter car will go much faster with the same engine to booth. I clock in at 260 lbs. so to save expense, car & health it's time to bite the bullet.
Disclaimer: I have been giving a weight reduction program of some type on and off attempts for awhile now with no luck. The/my flesh is weak, errr the mind!
But I have not given up yet!!! Bill
I know what you mean...... I have a weak spot for any type of desert and just typing about it makes me hungry
. We have a fellow Corvette forum member who shall remain nameless; that will will literally take the food out of your mouth prior to making a run on our track rental days