VIN Decoder Question
I'm assuming that the rarity number and $5 might get me a cup of coffee at Star Bucks.

I did a quick search on the forum and didn't really find an answer, but if this question has been kicked around before I apologize in advance.






some interesting counts...
http://corvetteactioncenter.com/spec.../2005prod.html
codes...
http://corvetteactioncenter.com/spec.../2005rpos.html




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http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/
and then go to Plant Info, then Option Penitration-then click on your year to see the total options for your year.





BTW, if it came back 2 with the default then you have a VERY common car. Almost everyone comes back with 1 using the default options to include list.
I can understand how you'd come to that conclusion, but that's not at all how it works. It's not built on the back of people that run their VIN, it runs off a static database of about 107 million GM vehicles. You'll notice a total count of the model/year matches in the database, such as "Found 289,611 vehicles matching your year and model in our database." That's a live count of the vehicles actually in the database. It doesn't need you to put in a VIN and it covers quite a bit more than GM.
The rarity for each RPO down the right side of the results is the count of that RPO within the same year/model. If the total found vehicles matches or is really close to the production run for the year then that option count is very accurate. Use that.
The rarity in the middle has a big bold announcement telling you why it says something silly like only 1 of a given vehicle was made. People tend to miss that notice. I actually made it red and flashing for a little while but still got the same results, and it looked awful.
In summary, for that section it uses *all* of the RPO codes listed to see how many have *exactly* those same options. Sometimes it can be somewhat useful but many times you'll notice useless RPO codes like "LABEL,NOTICE TO BUYER". Nobody cares about that code, it doesn't really make your car any rarer, but there's no way to take it out for the full comparison. Suddenly your common "red with nothing" vehicle is one of a kind.
That's why a more accurate rarity calculator was built that would allow you to select only the options that matter most and to get a count on only that combination. It was up for about 2 years but it's being rebuilt right now. Surprisingly even with a massive link to it few people bothered to use it and relied on the rarity calculation on the page, even when less than 2 lines below it is an explanation on why you shouldn't get all excited about the results. Honestly I'm not a huge fan of that section and it was even taken down for a while. Boy the emails I got over that move.....
A bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation with it but maybe once the selective rarity calculator is done I'll flat out delete that section and force you to select the RPO codes you want to compare. Might make for a few less "lol 1 of 1" jokes (albeit justified), but I think it'll be better overall.
Jason
Comp Nine
Glad to see its back up and running. I would recommend this tool to anyone shopping for a Vette.



I can understand how you'd come to that conclusion, but that's not at all how it works. It's not built on the back of people that run their VIN, it runs off a static database of about 107 million GM vehicles. You'll notice a total count of the model/year matches in the database, such as "Found 289,611 vehicles matching your year and model in our database." That's a live count of the vehicles actually in the database. It doesn't need you to put in a VIN and it covers quite a bit more than GM.
The rarity for each RPO down the right side of the results is the count of that RPO within the same year/model. If the total found vehicles matches or is really close to the production run for the year then that option count is very accurate. Use that.
The rarity in the middle has a big bold announcement telling you why it says something silly like only 1 of a given vehicle was made. People tend to miss that notice. I actually made it red and flashing for a little while but still got the same results, and it looked awful.
In summary, for that section it uses *all* of the RPO codes listed to see how many have *exactly* those same options. Sometimes it can be somewhat useful but many times you'll notice useless RPO codes like "LABEL,NOTICE TO BUYER". Nobody cares about that code, it doesn't really make your car any rarer, but there's no way to take it out for the full comparison. Suddenly your common "red with nothing" vehicle is one of a kind.
That's why a more accurate rarity calculator was built that would allow you to select only the options that matter most and to get a count on only that combination. It was up for about 2 years but it's being rebuilt right now. Surprisingly even with a massive link to it few people bothered to use it and relied on the rarity calculation on the page, even when less than 2 lines below it is an explanation on why you shouldn't get all excited about the results. Honestly I'm not a huge fan of that section and it was even taken down for a while. Boy the emails I got over that move.....
A bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation with it but maybe once the selective rarity calculator is done I'll flat out delete that section and force you to select the RPO codes you want to compare. Might make for a few less "lol 1 of 1" jokes (albeit justified), but I think it'll be better overall.
Jason
Comp Nine
I would like to thank you for taking the time to respond in the face of a bit of an attack on my part. I have to tell you that I will remain skeptical as Frankly, I'm not sure how such a "database" would have come to exhist unless it was tapping in to the GMVIS and similar systems from other manufacturers which would be a questionable practice in light of the pay for play nature of your new service. Regardless, your RPO information can prove usefull to someone searching for a new (or new to them) car. On the rarity bit, well, we've covered how I feel about that....particularly since we as Corvette owners tend to get all geeked out about such things and I see a very dim future with a lot of "only 1 of 2" for sale and aution listings.
Paul
I would like to thank you for taking the time to respond in the face of a bit of an attack on my part. I have to tell you that I will remain skeptical as Frankly, I'm not sure how such a "database" would have come to exhist unless it was tapping in to the GMVIS and similar systems from other manufacturers which would be a questionable practice in light of the pay for play nature of your new service. Regardless, your RPO information can prove usefull to someone searching for a new (or new to them) car. On the rarity bit, well, we've covered how I feel about that....particularly since we as Corvette owners tend to get all geeked out about such things and I see a very dim future with a lot of "only 1 of 2" for sale and aution listings.
Paul



The reality is, GM is a car manufacturer, not a collector car archive. GM cares about how many cars they produce, this is true. They care about how many of what options they sell, this is also true. What they don't care, nor track outside of 6 months from build is how many of what car had what options, it is irrelevant data to them.
Not knowing how other manufacturers do things, I can only talk to GM. In the case of said database, the only way I know that anyone (dealer or otherwise) can get a cars RPO information from a VIN is via the GMVIS. I know originally that the first Compnine VIN decoder was on a website for a GM parts dealer (think like GMPartshouse, Partstaxi or GMPartsdirect) which would give them access to the VIS. Use of the VIS in this fashion is against GM's intent for the system. Based on my thought process, this is where I have a problem.


















