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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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Car was driving funny on some roads so took it to my guy who I trust with all of my cars (dealer said it would not be covered under warranty) He did a alignment on the fronts, both had too much camber and toe in. He said with 4300 miles on the car the fronts don't have a lot of life left, be lucky to get 10000 miles. So my question before I bitch to the dealer is will they do anything for me? I remember when I had my old CTS-V they told me too bad on the tire wear its a performance car! Now that the alignment is better I noticed a change right away on how it runs. Thanks for the info!
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Factory alignment is chancy at best, but I doubt you will get any satisfaction from the dealer. On a new car the dealer is supposed to do a free alignment in the first 500 miles if the owner asks. Since you didn't ask... I ran through two sets of tires on my 2005 in less than 25K miles before I wised up. My new car will have a alignment to street specs in a week or so.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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I had my local Chevy dealer do a 4-wheel alignment and set the camber to 0 degrees, since the front tires were wearing on the inside. They stated a lot of Vette owners do this (when they are not tracked) to allow the tires to wear more evenly, allowing for more miles to the tires.

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Toe is not the only problem. You should tone down the negative camber while you're at it. It will make the car far more civilized to drive and save on tire wear at the same time.

Toe: 0
Camber: -.4 degrees

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Actually you can get a FREE alignment from the dealer at any time (on a NEW car) in the first 12,000 miles or 12 months. Can't hurt, take it in.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ptaylor_9849
Toe is not the only problem. You should tone down the negative camber while you're at it. It will make the car far more civilized to drive and save on tire wear at the same time.

Toe: 0
Camber: -4 degrees
I'm hoping you meant -0.4 degrees!
Yikes!

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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The rear control arm cam slipped on my 97 and toed the left rear tire in considerably along with adding a lot of positive camber. At one track even I could hear the tire squealing badly while going around a long right hand turn. At the next autocross I noticed I was getting cords on the outside of the left rear. At 4500 miles I took it to the dealer and they warrantied the rear tires and gave me a new alignment.

It never hurts to inquire about things. All they can say is it isn't covered. Not like they are going to hit you over the head with a ball bat.

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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom's GS
Car was driving funny on some roads so took it to my guy who I trust with all of my cars (dealer said it would not be covered under warranty) He did a alignment on the fronts, both had too much camber and toe in. He said with 4300 miles on the car the fronts don't have a lot of life left, be lucky to get 10000 miles. So my question before I bitch to the dealer is will they do anything for me? I remember when I had my old CTS-V they told me too bad on the tire wear its a performance car! Now that the alignment is better I noticed a change right away on how it runs. Thanks for the info!
Your dealer already told you it is not covered by warranty, so it does not sound like they will help. I do not know how you will get a different dealer to help you when you took it to an independent?

You can always call customer assistance.
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Actually you can get a FREE alignment from the dealer at any time (on a NEW car) in the first 12,000 miles or 12 months. Can't hurt, take it in.
Where is this stated? Just ordered a new 2013 and asked the service manager if he would give an alignment according to the Pfadt street recommendations. Said he would not do that and proceeded to state he would only use what GM says. Was a little taken back by this especially to someone looking to purchase a new car.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Always a wise move to have alinement performed on a new car. When purchasing the car ask that a alignment be part of the purchase, on them of course.

I run the Pfadt street specs and like how the car handles and the tire wear.
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Originally Posted by Tarl
Actually you can get a FREE alignment from the dealer at any time (on a NEW car) in the first 12,000 miles or 12 months. Can't hurt, take it in.
As per the General Motors Policies and Procedures Manual, alignments are limited to 7,500 miles for warranty.
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My selling dealer just told me that they cover alignments under warranty between 500 and 7500. I believe him.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Zap City
My selling dealer just told me that they cover alignments under warranty between 500 and 7500. I believe him.
Will they align to your specs or GM's?
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:51 AM
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I called my closest dealer and was told up to one (1) year and 12,000. I know my Camaro was till 7500. I'll call again, perhaps he was mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Tarl
I called my closest dealer and was told up to one (1) year and 12,000. I know my Camaro was till 7500. I'll call again, perhaps he was mistaken.
I have been told by my local dealer on a 98 Suburban that GM will reimburse dealers for realignment within the first 12/12. Therefore makeup an excuse like the vehicle is pulling to the side and they would check it. I have seen that posted here numerous times by CF members as well. Probably an internal GM agreement with the nationwide dealership network.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer111
Always a wise move to have alinement performed on a new car. When purchasing the car ask that a alignment be part of the purchase, on them of course..............
Vettes have been know to come out of BG with faulty alignments. When St Louis plant was still in operation, an office colleague bought a new 78 vette that had alignment off so bad that the rear tires worn out at 10k. Dealer realigned the car and provided new tires under warranty (no cost to the owner).
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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GM service bulletin #05-03-07-009C dated Feb 8, 2012 states that they will cover an alignment up to 10,000 miles. I am currently working with the dealer on new tires for the rear because of the alignment problem. I have 9900 miles on the car, 2011 GS. They have agreed to participate 50% for 2 new tires through the GM warranty plan. But I say that price they gave me is too much. So we'll what happens.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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What does this stand for.... where do I find these specs?

"Pfadt street specs"

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Originally Posted by j thomsen
GM service bulletin #05-03-07-009C dated Feb 8, 2012 states that they will cover an alignment up to 10,000 miles. I am currently working with the dealer on new tires for the rear because of the alignment problem. I have 9900 miles on the car, 2011 GS. They have agreed to participate 50% for 2 new tires through the GM warranty plan. But I say that price they gave me is too much. So we'll what happens.
Alignments are covered under warranty up to 7,500 miles. For vehicles with 7,501 miles and beyond, customers are responsible for the wheel alignment expense, or dealers may provide on a case-by case basis a one-time customer enthusiasm claim up to 10,000 mi.
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