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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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I can't stand the appearance of the seam half way up the hood. I only did to the hood opening.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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$2200 is steep. What will you do when a part you didn't cover is chipped. Friend bought a used ZR1 and the roof was chipped. The nose will take a beating so that is important. I don't car how good the installer is you will see it. Find a clear bra car that looks as good as Wolfdog's bra free car. You won't be able to. Alot depends on how you drive, bump draft someone and you'll get chipped up.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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$2200 is steep. What will you do when a part you didn't cover is chipped. Friend bought a used ZR1 and the roof was chipped. The nose will take a beating so that is important. I don't car how good the installer is you will see it. Find a clear bra car that looks as good as Wolfdog's bra free car. You won't be able to. Alot depends on how you drive, bump draft someone and you'll get chipped up.
I know you dont like clear bras. Fine. And sure they dont protect the radiator... but clear bras are "PAINT PROTECTION" not paint enhancement. Wolfdogs car has about 30 coats of Zaino on it (which will not stop rock chips) so why are you comparing the two? You are trying to compare film to probably the slickest paint job of anyone in here... why not your own paint??? Or the paint of the average Corvette in here??? You can layer Zaino on a good film however and it will get just as slick as the paint...

You had two bad installations and thats all you have for experience yet you bash the product all the time. You have never seen quality films that are on the market yet you lump them all together. Yes you can get a rock chip anywhere on the car BUT most of them happen on the leading edges of the panels. Some people want to protect the front of their cars... so let them do it without giving your VERY limited knowledge on the product. The next time I go to SLC I will be happy to bring my material in and install some film for you just so you can get an idea of what properly installed PPF looks like.

And by the way your driving habbits do impact how much damage you will get but do not prevent everything. Rocks do not bounce in a straight line so when your on a two lane road and cars are coming head on they throw rocks into your lane. And sometimes you do not have the option of keeping a lot of distance because cars pull in front of you. But you know this already or you wouldnt have wasted your money on a SLB.

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I know you dont like clear bras. Fine. And sure they dont protect the radiator... but clear bras are "PAINT PROTECTION" not paint enhancement. Wolfdogs car has about 30 coats of Zaino on it (which will not stop rock chips) so why are you comparing the two? You are trying to compare film to probably the slickest paint job of anyone in here... why not your own paint??? Or the paint of the average Corvette in here??? You can layer Zaino on a good film however and it will get just as slick as the paint...

You had two bad installations and thats all you have for experience yet you bash the product all the time. You have never seen quality films that are on the market yet you lump them all together. ////////

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All one had to do is see the front end of my '86 IROC, or my '91 Z28, or my 2000 C5 after 3 years of driving. While the rest of the car was perfect, the LEADING EDGES on the front end and mirrors broke my heart.

I had clear bra installed on three of my 2008 vehicles right after bringing them home. The front ends still look perfect on them. Yes, I can see the lines if I am w/i 10 feet, but it doesn't bother me. What bothers me is an otherwise pristine vehicle with fecked up paint on the front end.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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I know you dont like clear bras. Fine. And sure they dont protect the radiator... but clear bras are "PAINT PROTECTION" not paint enhancement. Wolfdogs car has about 30 coats of Zaino on it (which will not stop rock chips) so why are you comparing the two? You are trying to compare film to probably the slickest paint job of anyone in here... why not your own paint??? Or the paint of the average Corvette in here??? You can layer Zaino on a good film however and it will get just as slick as the paint...

You had two bad installations and thats all you have for experience yet you bash the product all the time. You have never seen quality films that are on the market yet you lump them all together. Yes you can get a rock chip anywhere on the car BUT most of them happen on the leading edges of the panels. Some people want to protect the front of their cars... so let them do it without giving your VERY limited knowledge on the product. The next time I go to SLC I will be happy to bring my material in and install some film for you just so you can get an idea of what properly installed PPF looks like.

And by the way your driving habbits do impact how much damage you will get but do not prevent everything. Rocks do not bounce in a straight line so when your on a two lane road and cars are coming head on they throw rocks into your lane. And sometimes you do not have the option of keeping a lot of distance because cars pull in front of you. But you know this already or you wouldnt have wasted your money on a SLB.
Where have I bashed it in this thread? I had around 5 clear bras installed total on my cars as well as around 5 different installers. One installer was actually VERY good but the product turned out to be not so good. I never saw or complained or even mentioned about your product. You mentioned yourself that installers are the key and certain products are not that good. I also NEVER said I didn't LIKE clear bra, the SLB just provides a better option for ME on the Corvette, GET IT?? On my next car that doesn't have a SLB option clear bra will be an option. $2200 IS STEEP though. I don't sell SLB, I'm just a customer. I have no financial interest in the company that makes or sells them and I don't even come close to working in the industry. I have around 300-400k miles of experience of owning a clear bra in some form and another 200k or so of some kind of vinyl bra.

And I did mention driving habits do affect how many chips you get AND that you will not be able to prevent all. I also mentioned that leading edges will still get damaged. Your post really hasn't added anything to what I said besides false accusations. Don't worry about showing me your product when you come to SLC. I'll look at other installers as an option if I go the clear bra route in the future. There are pros and cons for both and if I'm about to spend $2200 I would want to know what the cons are.

And my paint job is fine, no lines can be seen. Radiator (which you mentioned first on this thread) is not damaged. No chips on the bumper and bugs wipe off easily.

The OP mentioned if he should go part way up the hood, full or all the way. Since I had one installed on my hood part way for 30k miles I gave him my opinion. If you cannot live with it then tough. Don't quote crap I didn't say though.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Where have I bashed it in this thread? I had around 5 clear bras installed total on my cars as well as around 5 different installers. One installer was actually VERY good but the product turned out to be not so good. I never saw or complained or even mentioned about your product. You mentioned yourself that installers are the key and certain products are not that good. I also NEVER said I didn't LIKE clear bra, the SLB just provides a better option for ME on the Corvette, GET IT?? On my next car that doesn't have a SLB option clear bra will be an option. $2200 IS STEEP though. I don't sell SLB, I'm just a customer. I have no financial interest in the company that makes or sells them and I don't even come close to working in the industry. I have around 300-400k miles of experience of owning a clear bra in some form and another 200k or so of some kind of vinyl bra.

And I did mention driving habits do affect how many chips you get AND that you will not be able to prevent all. I also mentioned that leading edges will still get damaged. Your post really hasn't added anything to what I said besides false accusations. Don't worry about showing me your product when you come to SLC. I'll look at other installers as an option if I go the clear bra route in the future. There are pros and cons for both and if I'm about to spend $2200 I would want to know what the cons are.

And my paint job is fine, no lines can be seen. Radiator (which you mentioned first on this thread) is not damaged. No chips on the bumper and bugs wipe off easily.

The OP mentioned if he should go part way up the hood, full or all the way. Since I had one installed on my hood part way for 30k miles I gave him my opinion. If you cannot live with it then tough. Don't quote crap I didn't say though.
Just applying the numerous threads you have jumped into posting the same thing. Interesting how it has gone from two cars a while back to five in just the last month. One thing we can agree on though is that $2200 is way too high. I know what the material costs are and there isnt that much more footage added to the full front costs... and the labor is that much more either.

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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_Venom
Just applying the numerous threads you have jumped into posting the same thing. Interesting how it has gone from two cars a while back to five in just the last month. One thing we can agree on though is that $2200 is way too high. I know what the material costs are and there isnt that much more footage added to the full front costs... and the labor is that much more either.


The $2,200 figure is a red herring. I spent $600 and covered everything I need to cover. The fk bugs can't get me and that's all that matters.

Compared to a clear shield covering, a SLB looks like crap. You can see it from a 100 feet away. And I sure as hell would not want to be taking it off and on based on how far I planned to drive that day. And no one needs to tell me about putting it on before a road trip. You can get damage driving around the corner.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas_Venom
Just applying the numerous threads you have jumped into posting the same thing. Interesting how it has gone from two cars a while back to five in just the last month. One thing we can agree on though is that $2200 is way too high. I know what the material costs are and there isnt that much more footage added to the full front costs... and the labor is that much more either.
Two Corvettes, 3 other cars I can think of right now.

I can see using clear bra if it is a daily driver to be honest but my car is not a daily driver. 99% of the time I back my car out of the garage I'm not stopping within city or county limits so the SLB is on the car. It is also usually sunny and dry. I do take my car to car shows where I remove the SLB and my car looks great from even 6 inches from the bumper. It takes a whole two min to get it off and 3-5 to get it back on. I personally don't care if someone can see it going down the highway. Clear bra half way up the hood or with visible lines does look tacky at a car show. The paint does look different within 10 feet of the car.

Relax, enjoy your Corvettes because you never know when you might HAVE to sell it or cannot drive it. As I said I saw a C6 owner practically go into shock because of a rock chip on the leading edge of his hood. 1/4 inch either way and it probably would have bounced off the clear bra. I will probably end up getting a clear bra on another car in the future, just not this Corvette.
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Just be choosy when selecting an installer in the Fort Worth area and for Pete's sake don't be stupid like me and not look at several jobs he has done. IMO my clear bra install was a complete disaster and the finished product shows it. Anytime my installer had to lift up the film for whatever reason (and there were many like to remove a dust particle, hair, etc) I ended up with lines and bubbles which did not gone away in the two weeks he testified to that they would. A complete waste of a thousand bucks IMO.
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I have had nose, half hood, mirrors, fenders, and qrts done on two vettes. The line on the hood is not that noticeable. I have a artic white car and it is harder to keep clean. But I rather deal with it than chips.
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I've got an 04 ZO6 and an 09 vert.On the 09 I had the nose, headlites,fog lites,mirrors,behind each tire,in front of rear tires,door sills,inside door opening,edges of wheel wells and 1/3 up hood for 800.00.Sure sometimes I see line on hood.The 04 was not done and I see plenty of rock chips.I put garage door down on nose.Venrure Shield saved it.On the highway a hubcap came flying out of nowhere and hit rt foglite.VentureShield saved it,of course it couldn't have hit the Porsche beside me.I think it is worth it.
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