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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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I wanted to try and use this blind hole(no threads, no access to backside) in the frame so I could get the light up under the car a little farther, plus I did not want to drill hole in rear diffuser

hole is dead center of car(between muffler hangers)
Fasterthanall storewas not open this weekend or I would have gone by there and probably found what I needed, meanwhile I used what I had on hand. Next week I will visit them and get some sort of permanent device for attaching the bracket.
I used a old fashion toggle bolt, admittedly too small....but I had it on hand alreadyand it actually seems to have secured the light very well.


After you remove the tailight(piece of the cake) just drop a string throug the hole and tie it to the wire on the light then pull wire up through tailight hole

I tied a socket to the string for ballast, you can see the string tied to the wire at very bottom of the above pic, sorry about that ugly *** hairy knee, that is scary

I used posi lock connectors to tap into the wires.
Tear the tape about an inch away from the terminal and then work the tape back out of your way.
Yellow is Brake
Black is Ground
Brown is power

Use a tie wrap for stress relief(see photo)

Dont forget to test before you mount


You will have some left over wiring, just bundle it up and tie wrap to harness behind the tailight.

I made a bracket from a piece of scrap I already had, but I hear a pre made bracket may be available very soon
This was a standoff for the sensor on a garage door, I just drilled a hole in it and painted it.




I may get one of those stainless Jake skulls and stick on the bracket
I doubt anyone except Corvette folks will ever spot the bracket.

Here is a shot of the light inside the garage



I forgot to get a pic of the bracket installed when car was still raised but here is a shot with car sitting on ground.

After it gets dark I will try and post some more pics

Note: be very aware the little bracket that the torx screw(holds tailight in bumper)goes through will fall off inside bumperI got lucky and found it very quickly.

Also: what would youse guys recommend that would allow that blind hole to be utilized(like a thread insert)?

Hopefully this will help someone

Andrew Anderson sell these light(all kinds of them), the crossed flags light is way cool
Andrew is a forum vendor DoubleAA Mods and is one of the good guys. He also installs HUD and sell lots of other cool Corvette stuff, check him out
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%...k12KJ0RU5b9s_g

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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i like, at first i wasnt sure. will ask mrs what she thinks. guessing you'll get 2
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Nice write-up Bert...thanks

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Cool, but when does it activate?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Cool, but when does it activate?
With the lights.
Or you could switch one wire and it would activate with brakes.

Cant see it in daylight.

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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Looks cool. You could use a nutsert (or rivet nut) in that hole. It's a threaded rivet basically. Pops the same way a rivet does but then there are threads when it's popped. Fastensome would have them but the catch is the tool to pop it is expensive. If they are cool they would let you use it for five minutes right there at the store.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokinZ51
Looks cool. You could use a nutsert (or rivet nut) in that hole. It's a threaded rivet basically. Pops the same way a rivet does but then there are threads when it's popped. Fastensome would have them but the catch is the tool to pop it is expensive. If they are cool they would let you use it for five minutes right there at the store.
Thanks
I may end up using JB Wold or some sort of epoxy to install a flange nut in there, its fits perfect....If I could just get it to stay,permanently
I guess I could get it spot welded
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Cool.....It reminds me of the Batman light.........
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I dig it alot
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I may end up using JB Wold or some sort of epoxy to install a flange nut in there, its fits perfect....If I could just get it to stay,permanently
I guess I could get it spot welded
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Chemical fastening works in certain situations. I'd go more mechanical in this instance though. Another option would be a hollow wall anchor. Kind of like a toggle bolt rivet nut combo.
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OP,
Great write-up, and great solution. It is the same principle as the one Andrew is evaluating.

Actually the small toggle bolt you used is strong enough to hold the light and bracket. There is no concern about losing the toggle if you need to remove the light, since the frame is open on the ends, and one or two corners would get rid of it. A Rivnut would would be hard to place in the hexagonal hole in the frame. I'm not too sure about the security of a JB Welded nut in place. JB Weld is some great stuff, but I wouldn't want to worry about dragging a light around behind my car. I think the toggle bolt is the perfect solution. Andrew should have some brackets available soon that would actually place the light out of sight, require no hole in the diffuser, and would show a larger image on the ground. Has anyone looked at the frame for the Z-06s or ZR-1s to see if that same hole is in the aluminum frame?
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OP,
Great write-up, and great solution. It is the same principle as the one Andrew is evaluating.

Actually the small toggle bolt you used is strong enough to hold the light and bracket. There is no concern about losing the toggle if you need to remove the light, since the frame is open on the ends, and one or two corners would get rid of it. A Rivnut would would be hard to place in the hexagonal hole in the frame. I'm not too sure about the security of a JB Welded nut in place. JB Weld is some great stuff, but I wouldn't want to worry about dragging a light around behind my car. I think the toggle bolt is the perfect solution. Andrew should have some brackets available soon that would actually place the light out of sight, require no hole in the diffuser, and would show a larger image on the ground. Has anyone looked at the frame for the Z-06s or ZR-1s to see if that same hole is in the aluminum frame?
Thanks I did not realize the frame is open at the ends

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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So this shines the logo on the road as you drive at night? Pretty damn cool!! I'm sure though here in the welfare state of New York it must be illegal.
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looks awsome, great idea on location.

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red in the rear is fine I believe and if you want you can make it a 3rd brake light.
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what kind of taps did you use. I don't think I've seen/used those before
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what kind of taps did you use. I don't think I've seen/used those before
Those are called posi taps.

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Those are called posi taps.

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Very cool. I used a 3 way type design 3m connector on the 5th set of lights.
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I guess i'm gonna have to wait for Double A to come back to Florida for an install.
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I guess i'm gonna have to wait for Double A to come back to Florida for an install.
don't be scared it's easy.
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