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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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Sold the chrome 5 spokes, w/good tires & TPMS mounted & balanced ready to go, that were on my Vette when I bought it to a local guy (Not a CF sale). Thought they were for him, but he was getting them for his buddy.

So he comes by and checks them out and decides to take them. Hands me the cash & loads them up & off he went. That was Wednesday.

Today I got a call from him saying they are not GM wheels. News to me. Maybe they were maybe they were not. They were on the car when I bought it & I never bothered to look one way or the other.

Then he goes on to say they are Centerline wheels and can be bought new for $995. Ok, that might be so. I have no idea, but I know that's not for wheels, tires & TPMS mounted & balanced.

Anyway, then he starts saying they sell used for $600 and he is going to give his buddy back $200 out of what he paid me and asked me to give $100 refund. I offered to split that and give him $50 as a good faith gesture. He declined saying that it's not worth coming out to me to get $50.

On one hand I understand the situation, but on the other it was his job to inspect the wheels before purchase.

So am I wrong here and just an ahole or what? I know I didn't have to offer anything, but I'm not out to get anyone.



EDIT: I offered to mail the $50 & he said "Thanks, but I straightened it out."

So it seems that now he wants no money. Works for me, but WTF?!

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Did you advertise them as "genuine GM wheels"? If so, he might have an argument, although if it had been me, I would have checked anyway. "Trust but verify" and all that.

If not, then I guess it's really up to you how much you want to work with him.

He should have double checked, but if he was buying for his buddy, he may not have been the knowledgeable one of the two.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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First of all did you advertise that as GM wheels? Did you look to see if they were? If you did and they were not, then I would say you need to man up and work it out.
If not, and he was buying them for a friend and he did not check to verify that they were in fact GM wheels then it falls back on him as well as his friend. His friend should have made sure that he knew the difference in true GM wheels and aftermarket wheels.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Did you advertise them as "genuine GM wheels"? If so, he might have an argument, although if it had been me, I would have checked anyway. "Trust but verify" and all that.

If not, then I guess it's really up to you how much you want to work with him.

He should have double checked, but if he was buying for his buddy, he may not have been the knowledgeable one of the two.
I yanked the ad, but I don't believe I put GM wheels in it. He knew what he was looking at and for as he also owns a Vette.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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First of all did you advertise that as GM wheels? Did you look to see if they were? If you did and they were not, then I would say you need to man up and work it out.
If not, and he was buying them for a friend and he did not check to verify that they were in fact GM wheels then it falls back on him as well as his friend. His friend should have made sure that he knew the difference in true GM wheels and aftermarket wheels.
Today I got a call from him saying they are not GM wheels. News to me. Maybe they were maybe they were not. They were on the car when I bought it & I never bothered to look one way or the other.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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IMO....Your choice in how you wish to participate.

And as stated above, did you state "GM Wheels" or just "take-offs from a Corvette"?

But it really sounds like 2 parties of a three party transaction really didn't know what they had.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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No, he is being a little hard to deal with. He had the chance to check them out.

If they were advertised as GM yeah he has an argument, but still should check them out.

If he knows where you live it might be a good idea to just suck it up and make him happy.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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If it's not worth it for him to drive for the $50 offer to mail a money order/check to him. I think it's the right thing to do. Karma can go a long way. JMO
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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No, he is being a little hard to deal with. He had the chance to check them out.

If they were advertised as GM yeah he has an argument, but still should check them out.

If he knows where you live it might be a good idea to just suck it up and make him happy.
This kind of crap is why I don't like people coming to my house, but I didn't want to lug these things around in case he passed on them.

I'm armed so it is all good.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RO55
If it's not worth it for him to drive for the $50 offer to mail a money order/check to him. I think it's the right thing to do. Karma can go a long way. JMO
I'm a dumbass for not thinking of that, thanks.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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He came, he saw, he bought. Over!! I don't think you did anything wrong.

Good luck!
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Never-Enough
I'm a dumbass for not thinking of that, thanks.
I don't think so you are just trying to do the right thing and for that I applaude you!
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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I don't think so you are just trying to do the right thing and for that I applaude you!
I just offered to mail it & he said "Thanks, but I straightened it out."

So it seems that now he wants no money. Works for me, but WTF?!
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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I would mail the money to him whether he wants it or not. Just good idea in my eyes. I think it's the right thing to do and I would probably just feel better about the deal no telling what the future holds

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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The guy came and looked what you had to sell. He bought what you were selling. End of conversation.
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Never-Enough
I just offered to mail it & he said "Thanks, but I straightened it out."
That's it, you're out. No further action necessary!

Seems a bit odd, though. Unless he realized he was mistaken and they ARE real GM wheels
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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I would mail the money to him whether he wants it or not. Just good idea in my eyes. I think it's the right thing to do and I would probably just feel better about the deal no telling what the future holds

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I don't have his address
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by C6Whatever
I would mail the money to him whether he wants it or not. Just good idea in my eyes. I think it's the right thing to do and I would probably just feel better about the deal no telling what the future holds

Lisa
I agree with this approach, you are showing good faith and potentially defusing any upset! On the other hand you sold him something he visually inspected, unless you told him they were GM wheels he has not a leg to stand on. Then there is the old phrase "caveat emptor", Latin for buyer beware!
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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I don't have his address
He doesn't want you to have his address. Move on.
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All sales are "as is" unless stated otherwise. Fraud is reason to break an unwritten contract.
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