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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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I have noticed that fine scratches show on vettes easier than on other vehicles. Anyone know why?
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I have an 04 vehicle and another 08 and neither one shows a scratch as easy as the vette. It's not because its metallic because my 04 is also metallic.

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actually its caused by the materials used to clean the car,I Personally purchased a couple packs of microfiber cloths for my new vet and I am quite surprised at the lack of damage compared to the old towels I use to use with my other cars

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I use microfiber towels for my car also. They aren't cheap Wally World ones either. I wash them by theirselves and in a delicate soap....



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I use microfiber towels for my car also. They aren't cheap Wally World ones either. I wash them by theirselves and in a delicate soap....



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1st rule of microfiber club is you never reuse the microfiber. This is key. Those towels are garbage after you use them. And if you drop a clean one on the ground, consider it an icecream cone you just dropped. Its gone. A pack of those towels are cheap enough to where you should just replace them when you are done waxing/detailing that day. I use one per wheel usually, and 4 when I quick detail the paint. One for the wet spray, then one for the dryoff and thats only for one side.. The microfiber is whats scratching your paint. They pickup anything they touch and will scratch your paint with it.

Also get yourself gods gift to home amateur detailing. The porter cable 7424. Order the whole kit from autogeek.net and watch the 29039028430248902348920 how to videos on how to use it. Super simple and you CAN NOT burn your paint with it. Can not. Here is what Im talking about.

http://www.autogeek.net/po.html

Also, those little spider scratches are unavoidable if you ever touch your car. So get the porter cable and let it help you get those scratches gone. I have been using one for going on 7 years, and its been a god send. Things I have done to my car that most people think you would need a body shop for, I have been able to fix with it. But you need the right pads, polish and technique. Its all there in that link for you, if you want to take charge from those scratches. If you are not willing to do anything yourself, then you are on your own. Try to find a reputable shop that can detail the car for you.

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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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And watch this, you will be amazed at what it can do.

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Griots Random Orbital is better IMO. More power. The Flex is better still, but costs enough more that the Griots was the better deal.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 01:46 AM
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Griots Random Orbital is better IMO. More power. The Flex is better still, but costs enough more that the Griots was the better deal.
Whatever works for you. But the PC is by far and away the most popular and proven unit out there. The flex will be my next purchase because its more like a rotary and I've gained enough experience to use it now correctly without hurting the paint.
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Originally Posted by hulksdaddy
Griots Random Orbital is better IMO. More power. The Flex is better still, but costs enough more that the Griots was the better deal.
Griots is not better than the PC. I have both and it's not even close. The PC is much better.

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Whatever works for you. But the PC is by far and away the most popular and proven unit out there. The flex will be my next purchase because its more like a rotary and I've gained enough experience to use it now correctly without hurting the paint.
If you want more than A PC just get a rotary. Use 3M foam pads and polish. Less cost and will do more. As safe as a Flex. Both will damage your paint if you don't know what you are doing. Remove the scratch with the rotary and finish with the PC. Do not use wool pads unless you are a pro.
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If you want more than A PC just get a rotary. Use 3M foam pads and polish. Less cost and will do more. As safe as a Flex. Both will damage your paint if you don't know what you are doing. Remove the scratch with the rotary and finish with the PC. Do not use wool pads unless you are a pro.
Yeah thats where all the marring comes from I hear. The wool pads are very bad. But I was looking at the dewalt ones. They should make quick work of anything that doesnt need wet sanding.
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Yeah thats where all the marring comes from I hear. The wool pads are very bad. But I was looking at the dewalt ones. They should make quick work of anything that doesnt need wet sanding.
Thats the one I have. It will take out wet sanding marks in no time. If the car has tint coat be careful. The clear is in 2 coats and the tint is in the lower one. It's easy to cut down to the clear with the tint. Just reduce any deeper scratches and live with them
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Originally Posted by C6Whatever
I have noticed that fine scratches show on vettes easier than on other vehicles. Anyone know why?
Please no smart remarks

I have an 04 vehicle and another 08 and neither one shows a scratch as easy as the vette. It's not because its metallic because my 04 is also metallic.

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What kind of wax are you using? Are you sure they are not just in the wax? Wax scratches easy. Use a sealant designed to be applied with a machine for the best protection.
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1st rule of microfiber club is you never reuse the microfiber. This is key.
+1 on that. I buy the bulk package of microfiber towels at Sam's club. I use them one and then relegate them to the rag pile.
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Originally Posted by C6RaceCar
1st rule of microfiber club is you never reuse the microfiber. This is key. Those towels are garbage after you use them. And if you drop a clean one on the ground, consider it an icecream cone you just dropped. Its gone. A pack of those towels are cheap enough to where you should just replace them when you are done waxing/detailing that day. I use one per wheel usually, and 4 when I quick detail the paint. One for the wet spray, then one for the dryoff and thats only for one side.. The microfiber is whats scratching your paint. They pickup anything they touch and will scratch your paint with it.

Also get yourself gods gift to home amateur detailing. The porter cable 7424. Order the whole kit from autogeek.net and watch the 29039028430248902348920 how to videos on how to use it. Super simple and you CAN NOT burn your paint with it. Can not. Here is what Im talking about.

http://www.autogeek.net/po.html

Also, those little spider scratches are unavoidable if you ever touch your car. So get the porter cable and let it help you get those scratches gone. I have been using one for going on 7 years, and its been a god send. Things I have done to my car that most people think you would need a body shop for, I have been able to fix with it. But you need the right pads, polish and technique. Its all there in that link for you, if you want to take charge from those scratches. If you are not willing to do anything yourself, then you are on your own. Try to find a reputable shop that can detail the car for you.
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What kind of wax are you using? Are you sure they are not just in the wax? Wax scratches easy. Use a sealant designed to be applied with a machine for the best protection.
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+1 on that. I buy the bulk package of microfiber towels at Sam's club. I use them one and then relegate them to the rag pile.
Ok let me get this straight.....after using MF towels once don't ever use on the car again??
I use the Z polish on my car(please no wars) when washing I use 2 buckets. I rinse my rag out before placing back in bucket. Wash top to bottom.. So the spiderwebbing is just to be expected??

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Ok let me get this straight.....after using MF towels once don't ever use on the car again??
I use the Z polish on my car(please no wars) when washing I use 2 buckets. I rinse my rag out before placing back in bucket. Wash top to bottom.. So the spiderwebbing is just to be expected??

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Yes. Exactly yes.
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What is Z polish? If it's wax wash your car with Dawn and see if most go away. Wax protects your paint but it will scratch instead of the paint scratching. New wax over scratched wax still looks scratched. Dawn will remove wax. Then if they are gone just re wax. Wash with a good car wash first as Dawn wont lubricate as will to slide the dirt off. Use a different bucket and wash cloth with the dawn. If it's a poly sealant get some Griots paint prep or go to an auto paint store and get wax and grease remover. Never wax or seal without removing the old product. If you use a machine sealer it may not shine as well but you can wax over that. But it will come off the sealant every few washes and need more wax. I use Griots spray wax on my Vettes over the sealant to get more shine. I use detail spray on the truck and Malibu every wash as that is almost as good. Spray either on before you dry the car. Use a good drying towel. That needs to be redone every wash but is easy to do. I machine sealed my truck 3 years ago and it still looks good. I am going to strip it next spring and redo it. It's dark blue and has no spider webs or scratches. I don't agree with not reusing micro fiber. I do never use cheap microfiber like the ones Sams Club sells. You can get real good ones from Adams or Auto Geek.
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OP, most are focusing on how to get rid of the scratches- and they are right... a good DA polisher will make it all good and is absolutely neccessary. But the answer to your original question as to "why they scratch so easily" has eluded me for some time. I was told I needed very special aggressive polishing compounds due to the super hard clearcoat on Vette paints, and yet this coating seems to scratch so easily . I made the mistake of buying a California duster for quick dusting on a black C6. Yikes! Swirlies everywhere!
The guys are correct... use and care of microfibers, a DA polisher, and a Saturday afternoon are your best friends!
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Ok let me get this straight.....after using MF towels once don't ever use on the car again??
I use the Z polish on my car(please no wars) when washing I use 2 buckets. I rinse my rag out before placing back in bucket. Wash top to bottom.. So the spiderwebbing is just to be expected??

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On my "nice" cars this is the rule as well. One and done on paint... it goes in the old rag pile and is used on trim, wheels, tires or some other use around the house or the dd.

Good polish systems and proper use of a porter-cable (I have a griots as well and yes the PC is better) and then wax can clean up spiderwebbing... but yeah, its going to occur. Dark colors are harder to maintain... but that's why a black car can be beautiful as well.

Everybody has their favorite brands. I have shelves full of almost anything you would ever want to try. I am convinced it's more about technique than anything else. I also live only about 30 minutes from griots and they get a lot of my business.

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Originally Posted by duramaxsky
What is Z polish? If it's wax wash your car with Dawn and see if most go away. Wax protects your paint but it will scratch instead of the paint scratching. New wax over scratched wax still looks scratched. Dawn will remove wax. Then if they are gone just re wax. Wash with a good car wash first as Dawn wont lubricate as will to slide the dirt off. Use a different bucket and wash cloth with the dawn. If it's a poly sealant get some Griots paint prep or go to an auto paint store and get wax and grease remover. Never wax or seal without removing the old product. If you use a machine sealer it may not shine as well but you can wax over that. But it will come off the sealant every few washes and need more wax. I use Griots spray wax on my Vettes over the sealant to get more shine. I use detail spray on the truck and Malibu every wash as that is almost as good. Spray either on before you dry the car. Use a good drying towel. That needs to be redone every wash but is easy to do. I machine sealed my truck 3 years ago and it still looks good. I am going to strip it next spring and redo it. It's dark blue and has no spider webs or scratches. I don't agree with not reusing micro fiber. I do never use cheap microfiber like the ones Sams Club sells. You can get real good ones from Adams or Auto Geek.

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OP, most are focusing on how to get rid of the scratches- and they are right... a good DA polisher will make it all good and is absolutely neccessary. But the answer to your original question as to "why they scratch so easily" has eluded me for some time. I was told I needed very special aggressive polishing compounds due to the super hard clearcoat on Vette paints, and yet this coating seems to scratch so easily . I made the mistake of buying a California duster for quick dusting on a black C6. Yikes! Swirlies everywhere!
The guys are correct... use and care of microfibers, a DA polisher, and a Saturday afternoon are your best friends!
Thanks I have looked at my all out cars and can't figure it out. It must just be one of those things to drive me crazy. Like I needed something else.

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