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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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I've been noticing a lot of competing car companies have been adding front and rear strut tower braces as standard suspension components. The 370Z is one example. Seems like a fairly easy and cheap way to decrease body flex. Anyone know why the Corvette engineers have not adopted this to their design?

Would be interested to know if there was a reason.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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Just a wild guess, but doesn't the Vette have a real frame, while the others are a uni-body? The uni-body cars may flex more under stress. Just a guess though.

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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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You should definitely add some strut braces, right after you add some struts.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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Macpherson Struts (and their towers) are an evil plan cooked up by wayward youth to allow for from-the-bottom installation of the power train, or just the engine, of a (usually, but not always) uni-body car.

Since Corvettes are constructed differently (engine mounted in actual rock-solid frame, body mounted on frame...see marriage ceremony), there is no need for struts, or the ugly bolt on strengthening bracket.

Not to worry! Our suspension rocks!

Little known fact for JeremyTopGearCantFindABed: Porsche even has a patent (#6029987) on a "strut suspension system supported by a transverse leaf spring system" very much the same as that used by the Corvette. Hummm
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 01:00 AM
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You should definitely add some strut braces, right after you add some struts.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tlr3715
I've been noticing a lot of competing car companies have been adding front and rear strut tower braces as standard suspension components. The 370Z is one example. Seems like a fairly easy and cheap way to decrease body flex. Anyone know why the Corvette engineers have not adopted this to their design?

Would be interested to know if there was a reason.
something ..... about......... questions ...???

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You should definitely add some strut braces, right after you add some struts.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tlr3715
I've been noticing a lot of competing car companies have been adding front and rear strut tower braces as standard suspension components. The 370Z is one example. Seems like a fairly easy and cheap way to decrease body flex. Anyone know why the Corvette engineers have not adopted this to their design?

Would be interested to know if there was a reason.
The C6 frame is very stiff. It would take a lot to distort the shock mounts - there are images somewhere on this site where the factory shocks have broken before doing anything to the mounts...On a unibody youre constantly distorting and flexing it - there is constant push/pull on all those tack welds so tieing it together correctly can help slow down the distortion. This is one of the reasons for "seam welding" or adding extra tack welds to a unibody car.


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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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^^ Also why F-body owners add subframe connectors. Much more important mod than a strut tower brace.

My '94 Z28 race car has subframe connectors and a roll cage. If you lift the car with a jack anywhere, the entire car raises and lowers perfectly in synch - 100% rigid.
If you jack up a stock F-body...
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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While it's called a strut tower brace, cars with coil overs and double wishbone suspension can benefit from them. The Miata has them, even if it has full spring, shock and wish bone suspension.
They benefit unibody consturctions.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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This brings up another question.

How many people purchase hi-powered sport cars without knowing squat about them, how to drive them, or the cars' capabilities?

I suspect it's a big number.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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Strut tower braces are mostly seen on cars not designed for performance, ie Mustangs, Cameros designed to a mass market low MSRP to get the price shopper and V6 buyers. A much larger portion of total sales than the hipo models. Corvette were designed from the ground up asa performance cars and the structural rigidity was designed in from the begining.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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[QUOTE=EuroRod;1582444683

How many people purchase hi-powered sport cars without knowing squat about them, how to drive them, or the cars' capabilities?

I suspect it's a big number.[/QUOTE]

Ask this guy:

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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EuroRod
This brings up another question.

How many people purchase hi-powered sport cars without knowing squat about them, how to drive them, or the cars' capabilities?

I suspect it's a big number.
My wife wanted a shiny blue car.......So she got one!! Now, where do I get those shock tower thingy's
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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Even if you wanted to add a strut tower brace, there's not facility to add one on the corvette. It's a short long arm designed system. It doesn't have struts.

That's not to say that there aren't some ways of adding rigidity to the chassis itself.

Anyway, a lot of strut tower braces don't really do a whole lot to begin with. Especially in modern cars, even if they do have a strut and lower arm style suspension.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pcolarossi
Just a wild guess, but doesn't the Vette have a real frame, while the others are a uni-body? The uni-body cars may flex more under stress. Just a guess though.

Pete
The corvette has a monocoque frame.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Ask this guy:

That should buff right out with zanio. Lol
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EuroRod
This brings up another question.

How many people purchase hi-powered sport cars without knowing squat about them, how to drive them, or the cars' capabilities?

I suspect it's a big number.
For what it's worth: How many people buy ordinary cars without knowing squat about them?

The talent of driving is not based on the technical knowledge of the workings of the machine.....

Why bash enthusiastic car owners?
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EuroRod
This brings up another question.

How many people purchase hi-powered sport cars without knowing squat about them, how to drive them, or the cars' capabilities?

I suspect it's a big number.
If you want to see how many, start a thread talking trash about the people that dont ever push their cars and watch how the replies rack up...

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Ask this guy:

They must have been having fun - it takes a lot to flip a vette!


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Originally Posted by EuroRod
This brings up another question.

How many people purchase hi-powered sport cars without knowing squat about them, how to drive them, or the cars' capabilities?

I suspect it's a big number.
A hint would be how many threads are asking when to do the first oil change.
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