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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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I have checked my other vehicles against my GPS, and they always read 2 or 3 mph high at 60 mph. I have never really checked the accuracy of the GPS, but I always figured the car makers were being a little conservative.

I checked my Corvette the other day a couple of times, and the speed indicated in the HUD was exactly the same as my GPS said, around 60 mph.

I was really surprised. Have any of you verified the accuracy of your speedometer?
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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The same for me - my Garmin GPS and the HUD will have identical readings. What is odd to me is if I set the cruise the DIC will say "Cruise set to 60 mph" (or whatever lingo it uses) but the HUD will be saying 59. If I tap up one mph so that it says "set to 61 mph" the HUD will then say 60 along with my GPS. My other vehicles are typically 2-3 miles off (lower) from the GPS except for my Mazda3 work car - it's bang on but I'm looking at a needle on the speedometer and no digital readout...

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Mine is very accurate also. Don't question the GPS as it has a few hundred million dollars worth of electronics backing it up.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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Hmmm.........how often is the GPS updates vs. the speedometer????
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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My speedometer, my cruise control, my Garmin GPS, and roadside police radar speed monitors are always within 1 MPH of full agreement, and I'm sure this is due to rounding-off to the nearest full number.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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I've found that setting my cruise on 60 in the Vette I'll run 2-3 mph faster than my 2005 Grand Prix but if I set the cruise on 76 the Grand Prix runs 2-3 mph faster. I'm guessing it has to do with the speedo gearing maybe? I'll have to have my brother check it out with his patrol car one day....lol
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Supercrewbear
...if I set the cruise the DIC will say "Cruise set to 60 mph" (or whatever lingo it uses) but the HUD will be saying 59. If I tap up one mph so that it says "set to 61 mph" the HUD will then say 60 along with my GPS. :

: Same here
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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My DIC for cruise control, and speedo needle, usually show 1 mph higher than the HUD.
But they are right on with a GPS. Previously I checked it at 30, 60, 90, and 110 mph. Speedo needle was always within 1 mph of GPS. Haven't rechecked recently.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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HUD, Speedo, and Passport are all around 1 MPH of variation.
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My Garmin and the speedometer always indicate the same speed.
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Originally Posted by MKenM
Hmmm.........how often is the GPS updates vs. the speedometer????
GPS satellites constantly transmit data packets that include a timestamp and the satellite position. A GPS receive is basically in constant contact with at least four of the 24+ GPS satellites.
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I have always heard that your speedometer will "lag" when you drive your car. It will- especially on a motorcycle. Because of the uneveness/bumps of the road, the tires will constantly come up off of the road a slight bit causing the wheels to spin freely. On a motorcycle, the tires come up off of the road quite a bit at high speeds. Hence the saying riding down the road on a "pocket of air". Or, at least that is what I have always heard/thought.
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Any speedometer on any vehicle is only accurate once in the life of the tires.

Tire diameter is the final "gear" in the drivetrain measuring distance/speed and tire diameter decreases as the tires wear.
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy W1
I have always heard that your speedometer will "lag" when you drive your car. It will- especially on a motorcycle. Because of the uneveness/bumps of the road, the tires will constantly come up off of the road a slight bit causing the wheels to spin freely. On a motorcycle, the tires come up off of the road quite a bit at high speeds. Hence the saying riding down the road on a "pocket of air". Or, at least that is what I have always heard/thought.
It makes sense....but its not correct.

Its why guys run a speedo-healer so they get actual mph readings. A bike can be off as much as 15-20% at about 150 mph. Most guys saying "I was going 165!" were probably not even at 150 yet. There was a test done on a Z1000 a few years back and the speedo said 150 yet the gun indicates it was going only 133 or 131. I cant remember its been so long.

Originally Posted by haljensen
Any speedometer on any vehicle is only accurate once in the life of the tires.

Tire diameter is the final "gear" in the drivetrain measuring distance/speed and tire diameter decreases as the tires wear.
This.
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Originally Posted by haljensen
Any speedometer on any vehicle is only accurate once in the life of the tires.

Tire diameter is the final "gear" in the drivetrain measuring distance/speed and tire diameter decreases as the tires wear.
If the tire diameter is 25.5", I calculate that 5/32" of wear results in an error of about 1%. Not too bad.
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Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
If the tire diameter is 25.5", I calculate that 5/32" of wear results in an error of about 1%. Not too bad.
Close. But it looks like you only calculated it being lost once. You need to double it because you measure outside to outside.

Most people dont realize that as a vehicle goes faster and faster the magnification of the error gets bigger and bigger.
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Originally Posted by C6 Dream
I've found that setting my cruise on 60 in the Vette I'll run 2-3 mph faster than my 2005 Grand Prix but if I set the cruise on 76 the Grand Prix runs 2-3 mph faster. I'm guessing it has to do with the speedo gearing maybe? I'll have to have my brother check it out with his patrol car one day....lol
No such thing as speedo gearing in modern cars. They all get their speed information from a sensor in the drivetrain and the ECM sends a digital signal to the gauge. If the gauge is analog the signal is converted to an analog voltage in the gauge module and the gauge itself is just a simple analog voltmeter marked to read as a speedometer. Not sure how long it has been that way but I bet it is close to 30 years.

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Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
Close. But it looks like you only calculated it being lost once. You need to double it because you measure outside to outside. Can you please break that statement down into understandable terms for those of us you just lost?

Most people dont realize that as a vehicle goes faster and faster the magnification of the error gets bigger and bigger.
Yes in terms of mph diff gets larger - No in terms of percentage
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Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
Close. But it looks like you only calculated it being lost once. You need to double it because you measure outside to outside.

Most people dont realize that as a vehicle goes faster and faster the magnification of the error gets bigger and bigger.
Not sure what you mean. did you calculate something different?
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Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
Not sure what you mean. did you calculate something different?
He is just saying that the diameter must be used rather than the radius of the tire. In this case, the 5/32 lost would be 10/32 off the diameter.
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