steering wheel vibration
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: NJ: the garbage state
steering wheel vibration
i was following a thread someone posted a few days ago regarding a steering wheel vibration caused from the front wheel area. from my research some members mentioned the use of hub centric mounting rings as seen here:
http://www.1010tires.com/store/p-938...-set-of-4.aspx
i was interested because i am getting the same symptoms as the other poster. i feel a cyclical pulsating vibration in the steering that comes in like 2 second intervals at around highway speed. i have new high quality rotors, brakes, new and balanced after market replica wheels, and new stock tires. the car was never damaged or in a crash and its an 09 with only 10k miles on it.
anyone know what size ring i would need for a stock sized wheel and if this is worth a try?
http://www.1010tires.com/store/p-938...-set-of-4.aspx
i was interested because i am getting the same symptoms as the other poster. i feel a cyclical pulsating vibration in the steering that comes in like 2 second intervals at around highway speed. i have new high quality rotors, brakes, new and balanced after market replica wheels, and new stock tires. the car was never damaged or in a crash and its an 09 with only 10k miles on it.
anyone know what size ring i would need for a stock sized wheel and if this is worth a try?
Pro
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Lakemont, GA
You said that you had aftermarket wheels, these are notoriously out of balance dynamically. Take a look at your wheel weights and if you only have weights in the center portion of the wheel you should take it to a good shop to have a high speed balance done (if done well they will stick weights across the inside of the wheel).
You can also try to change air pressures and see if the cyclic rate changes, it could be the wheels in one relative position are setting up a harmonic vibration.
If you have a friend that will swap wheels with you for a test drive you can rule out (or identify) potential problems.
You can also try to change air pressures and see if the cyclic rate changes, it could be the wheels in one relative position are setting up a harmonic vibration.
If you have a friend that will swap wheels with you for a test drive you can rule out (or identify) potential problems.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Lake Delton (WI Dells) WI
Try a couple wraps of tape around the hub, so the wheel fits snug on the hub. My vibration went away as soon as I did that. The vibration I had seemed to change when I would mount and then re-mount the same wheels. Sometimes I had it and other times I didn't when remounting the same wheels. I had the same experience with my OEM wheels. Keep in mind, the steering wheel vibrations I had were pretty small and would come and go based on the front two wheel's relationship to each other. I would have a slight vibration but as soon as I would go around a bend in the highway it would decrease or disappear.....then I would encounter another bend in the highway and the vibration would come back.
I had some custom plastic rings made on eBay for my front wheels. They are VERY thin. I just use the tape method for the rears. I also use extend thread -LUGS-.
I had some custom plastic rings made on eBay for my front wheels. They are VERY thin. I just use the tape method for the rears. I also use extend thread -LUGS-.
Racer
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: Concord NC
I have the same problem with my Factory brand repros. The hub clearance was paper thin so no rings would even fit. Two wraps of tape brought the clearance to nill. Didn't help. Hand torqueing the wheels in three steps made it liveable but it's not gone.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: Sugarhill Ga
you need to check those wheels & tires again. as far as centering rings, the wheel maker will tell you what you need. some have used duct tape to fill the gap, but i belive you either have a bad wheel or tire. if you pull the center cap of the wheel and look into the hub area once it is on the car you will see if you have any gap.
Race Director
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Daytona Beach FL
Our wheels are lug-centric, so you shouldn't need any kind of hub device at all - unless you've got wheels with defective lug holes, or something is wrong with your lug nuts.
Do you still have the Tinnerman nuts/washers on your lugs??
In the picture below I've got a couple of those nuts loosely on a couple of lugs. Those nuts are put on when the car comes down the assembly line and the rotors are installed. They are put on simply to hold the rotors on until the calipers and wheels get installed later down the line:
Take a look at the face of the inside of an OE wheel:
You can see in the picture above that there is a countersunk area around the lug hole that the Tinnerman nut can fit into.
Some aftermarket wheels don't have that countersunk area (or it's not big or deep enough) and the inside face of the wheel won't seat flat and square on the hub - and no matter how well the wheel is balanced off the car, if the wheel isn't fitting smoothly and squarely onto the hub you'll have a vibration.
So.....if you still have those Tinnerman nuts on your wheels, remove them!!
Bob
Do you still have the Tinnerman nuts/washers on your lugs??
In the picture below I've got a couple of those nuts loosely on a couple of lugs. Those nuts are put on when the car comes down the assembly line and the rotors are installed. They are put on simply to hold the rotors on until the calipers and wheels get installed later down the line:
Take a look at the face of the inside of an OE wheel:
You can see in the picture above that there is a countersunk area around the lug hole that the Tinnerman nut can fit into.
Some aftermarket wheels don't have that countersunk area (or it's not big or deep enough) and the inside face of the wheel won't seat flat and square on the hub - and no matter how well the wheel is balanced off the car, if the wheel isn't fitting smoothly and squarely onto the hub you'll have a vibration.
So.....if you still have those Tinnerman nuts on your wheels, remove them!!
Bob
Last edited by BEZ06; May 9, 2013 at 01:54 PM.
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2013 427 Steering wheel shakes cause of bad vibration I fought this for 6 weeks on a car
with 500 miles on it. As a last resort I took all 4 rotors to a machine shop for balance.90%
improvement; then I balanced the tires,wheels and rotors on the car. (hunter strobe light) to finish . A perfect ride at 100+mph.
with 500 miles on it. As a last resort I took all 4 rotors to a machine shop for balance.90%
improvement; then I balanced the tires,wheels and rotors on the car. (hunter strobe light) to finish . A perfect ride at 100+mph.