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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 01:07 AM
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I got my car in 2012 with 24k on it around 32k sometimes I'd notice a popping, it got progressively worse. Had the fluid changed at 33979 last November. Well now it's doing it again, noticed it today, exact same sound as last time, Odo hit 50k last week. Service receipt says 88862624 fluid which is ACDelco 75w/90. Is this a fluid issue again so soon? or could it be my rear end?
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:41 AM
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After a change mine started doing it around 10K+/- miles using non GM fluid.
After I installed the GM gear oil it has gone longer, I am around 13K right now.

I personally feel that the differential oil should probably be changed more often.
DIY it is under 40.00 using GM fluid.

If your rear end started making noise again, just change out the fluid and you will be good for another 17K miles.

I am at 93K now and at 100K I will be swapping all fluids.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:55 AM
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someone will comment, but there was an updated rear end fluid. hopefully your service dept. used it. then, too, it's difficult to tell what was done the first 24K miles that you didn't own the car and how it was treated. I'd say go for another change, and see if in the stickies or by a search on here you can tell which is the latest GM fluid recommended. I do recall one thing, that the new fluid does not require an additional friction modifier.

note: this may not be the latest bulletin or fluid, but note Post #1.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...end-noise.html
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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I changed mine with the new fluid no additive. Mine has been quiet since. There is mention that the noise could return, another fluid change. I remember reading that the clunking doesn't hurt anything, just your nerves.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 07:24 AM
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Issue with not using the additive is after the fluid gets older, breaks down, and becomes thinner.......you will drive it short distances and be fine because its not getting hot. But the longer the trip and the more heat gets in it the more thing the fluid gets and what will happen is the fluid will not have enough "stuff" to it in order to let your rear diff work properly.

Issues you can have is a chattering sound in slow corners that is almost a rubbing sound like your hand on a balloon and you might have the inside tire chirping as its spinning the same speed as the outside wheel.

Use the best fluid you can. Its cheap insurance and its maybe $20 more or so is all.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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That's the new oil. Sounds like the same problem I had with the V (both, actually). First was at 16.5K mi, then again at 18.5K mi before they decided to just replace the whole diff at 20.5K mi since 2 diff oil changes didn't silence the noise.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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amsoil severe gear oil and the 4oz additive solved it for me. I think i paid $43 for 2 quarts and the 4oz additive, so not much more than GM
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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Both of my '05s did it until I changed to Redline, now both are nice and quiet.
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Originally Posted by Powder06C6
I got my car in 2012 with 24k on it around 32k sometimes I'd notice a popping, it got progressively worse. Had the fluid changed at 33979 last November. Well now it's doing it again, noticed it today, exact same sound as last time, Odo hit 50k last week. Service receipt says 88862624 fluid which is ACDelco 75w/90. Is this a fluid issue again so soon? or could it be my rear end?
That p/n is correct per the TSB that was issued for noise caused by clutch pack slippage in the diff & the fluid should not deteriorate. However.....a second cause of very similar noise, especially when turning at low speed, is loosening of the rear axle nuts. Very easy DIY fix.....these are "torque nuts" & should not be reused, but they're cheap....only a couple of bucks each. P/N 10257766...available from your local dealer or GM Parts House here on the Forum. You'll also need Permatex Red - High Temp threadlocker (small bottle will do) & a 33mm socket. Remove the old nut....clean the axle shaft threads with a small wire brush.....apply Permatex to threads....install new nuts & torque to 145#. Allow the Permatex to dry overnight before driving. If you still hear a noise from the rear, then you may have a further problem in the diff, but replacing the axle nuts is a cheap & easy first check. Hope this helps.....
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Originally Posted by Powder06C6
I got my car in 2012 with 24k on it around 32k sometimes I'd notice a popping, it got progressively worse. Had the fluid changed at 33979 last November. Well now it's doing it again, noticed it today, exact same sound as last time, Odo hit 50k last week. Service receipt says 88862624 fluid which is ACDelco 75w/90. Is this a fluid issue again so soon? or could it be my rear end?
My last notes agree this is the correct fluid. I had several fluid changes before the noise stopped. Did you do the figure 8 method after the change?
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Didn't do a figure 8, drove around the chevy dealership parking lot around corners did circles clockwise and counterclockwise took my time if it was going to snap crackle or pop I wanted it to do it there. Guess I'll be changing the fluid again, I'll look into the axle nuts as well. Was just worried only have 10k left on my extended warranty if anything mechanical is bad I'd prefer it break now.
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Originally Posted by TLS_Addict
Issue with not using the additive is after the fluid gets older, breaks down, and becomes thinner.......you will drive it short distances and be fine because its not getting hot. But the longer the trip and the more heat gets in it the more thing the fluid gets and what will happen is the fluid will not have enough "stuff" to it in order to let your rear diff work properly.

Issues you can have is a chattering sound in slow corners that is almost a rubbing sound like your hand on a balloon and you might have the inside tire chirping as its spinning the same speed as the outside wheel.

Use the best fluid you can. Its cheap insurance and its maybe $20 more or so is all.
GM says the new fluid does not need additive, putting in the additive can cause problems. We put over 3 years/40k miles on the good fluid (no additive) in our 2009. It was still working perfectly but we drained and sent a sample to Blackstone Labs, they said both the fluid and the differential were in excellent condition and fluid could go longer, probably a lot longer.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Indeed, follow the latest TSB, use the latest GM fluid and NO additive (as the TSB directs).

Just a reminder, when backing out of your garage in the morning and making a sharp turn, it is easy to mistake front tire "scrub" for differential chatter. If you notice noise / chatter only while making your first sharp turn out of the garage and then no more noise after that, it's very likely just front tire scrub. If the noise continues for a few miles on average street turns then it's more likely the differential.

Another thing to remember too, if the car has been sitting unused for a good month or more, it is not unusual to get a little differential chatter out of the garage, but then all should be ok after that. If the car is used somewhat regularly, the diff should be ok, no chatter.

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When I changed my fluid I didn't need figure eight turns. I serviced to the bottom of filler hole then spun wheels by hand a few revolutions and let it sit overnight. I immediately noticed no noise when I backed out of the garage, drove normally with a few spirited turns left and right. No noise after a few thousand miles.
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Originally Posted by Dave S
That p/n is correct per the TSB that was issued for noise caused by clutch pack slippage in the diff & the fluid should not deteriorate. However.....a second cause of very similar noise, especially when turning at low speed, is loosening of the rear axle nuts. Very easy DIY fix.....these are "torque nuts" & should not be reused, but they're cheap....only a couple of bucks each. P/N 10257766...available from your local dealer or GM Parts House here on the Forum. You'll also need Permatex Red - High Temp threadlocker (small bottle will do) & a 33mm socket. Remove the old nut....clean the axle shaft threads with a small wire brush.....apply Permatex to threads....install new nuts & torque to 145#. Allow the Permatex to dry overnight before driving. If you still hear a noise from the rear, then you may have a further problem in the diff, but replacing the axle nuts is a cheap & easy first check. Hope this helps.....
I have a 2008 A6 with the same problem...took it to the dealer and apparently GM had a service advisory on the same type of problem. Fix one was the replacement of the fluid..we did that with no success, fix two suggested a replacement of the clutch pak assembly...at a cost of $1800. I called the dealer asking for a copy of the service advisory note and have yet to hear back from them. I'm thinking if I have to go that route I'll get my private mechanic (who has dealt with all of my mods) to simply go in and change the whole thing out and I'll go with a higher ratio back end..any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Vet
Indeed, follow the latest TSB, use the latest GM fluid and NO additive (as the TSB directs).

Just a reminder, when backing out of your garage in the morning and making a sharp turn, it is easy to mistake front tire "scrub" for differential chatter. If you notice noise / chatter only while making your first sharp turn out of the garage and then no more noise after that, it's very likely just front tire scrub. If the noise continues for a few miles on average street turns then it's more likely the differential.

Another thing to remember too, if the car has been sitting unused for a good month or more, it is not unusual to get a little differential chatter out of the garage, but then all should be ok after that. If the car is used somewhat regularly, the diff should be ok, no chatter.

I have a real hard right turn coming out of my parking spot in the parking garage then another one as I approach the exit door. My drive to work is no more than 15mins...parking at work is a tight turn as well and even after the drive to work is makes the same noise. It only does it on slow tight turns, never during normal driving conditions, even a right hand turn from a red light or stop sign doesn't replicate the sound of slow hard cranking turns. You can hear the back end grind and it vibrate all the way up the steering.
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Noise in the rear diff will not make your steering wheel vibrate. Though, front tire scrub will.
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Originally Posted by Snake.Oiler
Noise in the rear diff will not make your steering wheel vibrate. Though, front tire scrub will.
I disagree...if the rear end isn't working properly the vehicle will not turn as it should. you can hear the gears grindings and the vehicle just doesn't wanna go where point it at very low speed..the grinding vibrates right through.

i'll leave it at that
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