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richsteele: Thanks for that primer on the fuel system. All I can say is "WOW!"….and wonder how many GM engineers it took to design a system that would do the Space Shuttle proud. I sure as hell hope that, over the lifetime of the vehicle, it is as reliable as it is complicated.
What's seems odd to me is that the two-tank set-up (vs a large single tank) would be beneficial to vehicle dynamics as result of better weight distribution, but that is obviously negated by the fact the system draws from the left tank, which stays 100% full until the right tank is completely emptied.
It's way overcomplicated because of stupid government regulations. Imagine having to do a stainless pipe because too much hydrocarbon comes through the walls of a rubber hose...idiotic. I am thinking that the two tanks allow the fuel mass to be lower to the ground than one big tank would. The big tank would probably have to be located higher up in the car.
richsteele: Thanks for that primer on the fuel system. All I can say is "WOW!"….and wonder how many GM engineers it took to design a system that would do the Space Shuttle proud. I sure as hell hope that, over the lifetime of the vehicle, it is as reliable as it is complicated.
What's seems odd to me is that the two-tank set-up (vs a large single tank) would be beneficial to vehicle dynamics as result of better weight distribution, but that is obviously negated by the fact the system draws from the left tank, which stays 100% full until the right tank is completely emptied.
Where are you going to put a large single tank? The system is the way it is for packaging.
The two tanks are at the lowest possible point in the car, positioned inside the wheelbase, and are well-protected by the frame rails. There have to be two of them because the transmission takes up the space in the middle.
Originally Posted by cclive
It's way overcomplicated because of stupid government regulations. Imagine having to do a stainless pipe because too much hydrocarbon comes through the walls of a rubber hose...idiotic. I am thinking that the two tanks allow the fuel mass to be lower to the ground than one big tank would. The big tank would probably have to be located higher up in the car.
A rubber crossover tube wouldn't make the system any simpler or easier to service, just leakier and less safe. What would make it simpler is if the crossover were on the bottom, but this could be more prone to leaks and much more susceptible to damage from debris or in an accident. In terms of handling a volatile fuel product safely, GM's design is pretty good.
It's also pretty reliable. The problem is that it takes a bunch of hours to drop the tanks in order to get at the innards like the main pump or the level senders, which results in big labor charges.
Last edited by torquetube; Oct 31, 2013 at 02:29 AM.
It's also pretty reliable. The problem is that it takes a bunch of hours to drop the tanks in order to get at the innards like the main pump or the level senders, which results in big labor charges.
My point exactly...all the cars now that have the pump inside the tank are made that way because of silly government regulations on tiny evaporative emissions. A fuel pump was a simple thing to change in the past...now it's a $1,000 deal. We are all paying for it.
can't squeeze much into mine either when it stops, tried a couple of times and it just spilled on the car
Even though I can get another gallon past the click mark the fuel guage still moves too fast towards empty. If I stopped at the click mark it would be that much sooner to empty.
At 2 gallons used the fuel needle has moved. I prefer to look at the "F" level instead. Just me.