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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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I have a 2013 Z06 with 19" wheels in front and 20" wheels in the back. I got a small screw in the in the front tire. I called a goodyear store because it is close to my house. The guy said bring it over and he would fix it. He said it would cost a little extra because it is a pain in the *** to get the tire off. My question to you guys is would you put a patch on it or get a new tire. The car only has 6500 miles on it...
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patch it...Goodyear, don't you have michs on her?...any how make sure they know what they are doing..I'm been running a patch on my rear tire now for about 1300 miles...FWIW 13Z also...
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if it is safe to patch, patch it. RFT's are a pain to work with which is why they told you that it takes longer to do.
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patch it...Goodyear, don't you have michs on her?...any how make sure they know what they are doing..I'm been running a patch on my rear tire now for about 1300 miles...FWIW 13Z also...
Do you have run flates... I don't have Goodyears. Only reason I'm taking it to Goodyear is because they are close to my house.
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Ok, I have talked to 5 tire shops and 3 said they can patch and 2 said they can not patch because it is a run flat tire.. WTF!!!!
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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I would be careful about the tire changing machine they use, it should be a touchless tire changer and a person (or three) that has delt with premium wheels or they could scratch your wheels.
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I would be careful about the tire changing machine they use, it should be a touchless tire changer and a person (or three) that has delt with premium wheels or they could scratch your wheels.
This is what I ask the tire shop. They told me they have done many of them..
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Take it to Discount. I just had my rear run flat patched for free there.
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Take it to Discount. I just had my rear run flat patched for free there.
Thank you!!!! Goodyear is going to do it tomorrow. I was a little worried because a couple places said they couldn't do it. The guy at Goodyear said he could do it but it would take some time and he would have to charge me a little extra. I told him that's fine. I would rather pay $60 than $500 for a new tire..
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Ok, I have talked to 5 tire shops and 3 said they can patch and 2 said they can not patch because it is a run flat tire.. WTF!!!!
2 of them don't know what they are talking about.

Firestone gives different answers about patching one of their runflats, depending on who you talk to or which manual you read. I think Bridgestone is similar. The lawyers have taken over. AFAIK, all others allow a proper inside plug-patch.

Some say the tire loses its speed rating after a patch, last time I looked it up Goodyear allowed full speed with one patch, second patch killed the speed rating.

Any tire, runflat or not, has certain restriction on location/size/shape/ of what can be patched.

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Whenever I read one of these posts regarding repair of a RF tire, I begin to wonder whether we've become prisoner of corporate liability positions taken by the major manufacturers. Seems to me that if the puncture is as described here.....a screw thru the tread......with no sidewall damage.....then a simple plug repair would be sufficient without the need to demount the tire & add an interior patch. Sure, the manufacturers claim that the ultimate speed rating of the tire is compromised, but really.....how many of us drive at 140mph plus! I surely wouldn't begrudge anyone who wishes to be super safe, but is it worth the aggravation & possible damage to demount the tire from the wheel?
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They need to use the patch/plug method. I have had this done to my GY's and Michelin's on my C5 with no trouble.

It is done from the inside out. The internal patch with a plug they pull from the inside out. None of my leaked ever and no problems with balance.
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Originally Posted by 2013 Z06
Thank you!!!! Goodyear is going to do it tomorrow. I was a little worried because a couple places said they couldn't do it. The guy at Goodyear said he could do it but it would take some time and he would have to charge me a little extra. I told him that's fine. I would rather pay $60 than $500 for a new tire..
$60..WOW..I had 5 leaks when i had the Goodyear's on & each time was $15.00.In & out in 15 minutes..
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Originally Posted by Dave S
Whenever I read one of these posts regarding repair of a RF tire, I begin to wonder whether we've become prisoner of corporate liability positions taken by the major manufacturers. Seems to me that if the puncture is as described here.....a screw thru the tread......with no sidewall damage.....then a simple plug repair would be sufficient without the need to demount the tire & add an interior patch. Sure, the manufacturers claim that the ultimate speed rating of the tire is compromised, but really.....how many of us drive at 140mph plus! I surely wouldn't begrudge anyone who wishes to be super safe, but is it worth the aggravation & possible damage to demount the tire from the wheel?
CF member "Wolfdogs" was a big wheel in the government tire spec business. He is dead set against plugging from the outside, as are all the tire makers. Wolfie said that offhand, people don't seem to have too many problems with the outside plug. But when they finally started collecting data on actual failures with different repair methods, the plugs stuck out like a sore thumb.

If OP is really sure he'll never drive his Corvette hard or over 55 mph, then a plug might be ok.
If OP is really sure he'll never drive his Corvette hard or over 55 mph, then he should sell it and get a Prius.
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Call around to some tire stores in your area and get their input. Based upon what you have found out, contact the tire company and see what they have to say.

I am hard pressed to think that I would ever put a patch on a high speed tire. Car probably has a "Z" rating. That is rated for about 150 mph. With that in mind, is it worth taking a chance?

I am a retired State Trooper, our instructions were to just get a new tire on the cruiser.

Good Luck
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Got mine rear flat fixed by a certified run flat tire shop, with tire off the rim they used a mushroom plug from the inside then mounted it back than cut the remaining stem off, not a problem.
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Originally Posted by acesx4
Got mine rear flat fixed by a certified run flat tire shop, with tire off the rim they used a mushroom plug from the inside then mounted it back than cut the remaining stem off, not a problem.
and yes OP my 13Zhas Michs RF
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
2 of them don't know what they are talking about.

Firestone gives different answers about patching one of their runflats, depending on who you talk to or which manual you read. I think Bridgestone is similar. The lawyers have taken over. AFAIK, all others allow a proper inside plug-patch.

Some say the tire loses its speed rating after a patch, last time I looked it up Goodyear allowed full speed with one patch, second patch killed the speed rating.

Any tire, runflat or not, has certain restriction on location/size/shape/ of what can be patched.

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Originally Posted by rakuhn
Call around to some tire stores in your area and get their input. Based upon what you have found out, contact the tire company and see what they have to say.

I am hard pressed to think that I would ever put a patch on a high speed tire. Car probably has a "Z" rating. That is rated for about 150 mph. With that in mind, is it worth taking a chance?

I am a retired State Trooper, our instructions were to just get a new tire on the cruiser.

Good Luck
But you did not have to pay for your tires....
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
2 of them don't know what they are talking about.

Firestone gives different answers about patching one of their runflats, depending on who you talk to or which manual you read. I think Bridgestone is similar. The lawyers have taken over. AFAIK, all others allow a proper inside plug-patch.

Some say the tire loses its speed rating after a patch, last time I looked it up Goodyear allowed full speed with one patch, second patch killed the speed rating.

Any tire, runflat or not, has certain restriction on location/size/shape/ of what can be patched.



What brand do you have? With that mileage and year the MFG should repair it under warranty. The patch is actually a plug patch that goes on the inside of the tire and the plug is pulled through the hole. Sidewall or near sidewall are not repairable. I have had two done and no issues with either.
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