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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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But they are summer tires, I'm wanting all season. And they have no mileage warranty! And their prices are more than all season.
What high performance car tire has a mileage warranty? I did not see any the last time i was on Tire Rack & as for as price they were less then the other RF's options.Let me know of a cheaper Rf & i will go for them on the next set...
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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What high performance car tire has a mileage warranty? I did not see any the last time i was on Tire Rack & as for as price they were less then the other RF's options.Let me know of a cheaper Rf & i will go for them on the next set...
OK, I was wrong about the pricing, I was looking at the Firestones on Firestone.com and doing the math in my head. Their price is $1221.96.
Tire Rack pricing and warranties:
Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval RFT $980 plus shipping. No mileage warranty.
Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position A/S RFT $1250 plus shipping. No warranty due to speed rating.
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP $1254 plus shipping. $70 rebate. 30000 mile warranty on the fronts. 15000 on the rears.
My vote goes to Michelin.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Default Last phone call to Michelin and Tire Rack

Tire Rack said they were sure Michelin was still making the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus and they have not heard they were going to make the A/S 3 in a runflat.

I talked to Michelin for the 6th time. This young man acted like he knew what he was talking about. He said the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus runflat was still being made and did not know when they would stop making them, they would have to develop another runflat to take it's place and he did not know if they would make the A/S 3 in a runflat. What has been discontinued in July is the Pilot Sport A/S Plus non runflat. He also said when they discontinue a tire they have a warehouse with emergency replacements of that tire. If they cannot find a replacement for your tires under warranty, they replace all 4 with what they are making to replace the discontinued tire. That's good news.
There ends my investigation!
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR 55
That's why I'm leery of buying 4 of them, what happens if you need a replacement?
I got new A/S Plus all round this summer from Discount Tire with the replacement certs. If I shred one tire and they can't get a replacement I wonder if they will have to give me 4 new similar tires?

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BEAR 55
Tire Rack said they were sure Michelin was still making the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus and they have not heard they were going to make the A/S 3 in a runflat.

I talked to Michelin for the 6th time. This young man acted like he knew what he was talking about. He said the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus runflat was still being made and did not know when they would stop making them, they would have to develop another runflat to take it's place and he did not know if they would make the A/S 3 in a runflat. What has been discontinued in July is the Pilot Sport A/S Plus non runflat. He also said when they discontinue a tire they have a warehouse with emergency replacements of that tire. If they cannot find a replacement for your tires under warranty, they replace all 4 with what they are making to replace the discontinued tire. That's good news.
There ends my investigation!
Thank you, I was getting worried for a while. I just bought the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ZP tires (all four) two weeks ago. If they were being discontinued, I would worry about my warrantee...

By the way, great tires!!!!! Quiet, comfortable and a hell of a lot less teeth chattering. Can't go wrong with these tires.....
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 11:07 PM
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I wouldn't try to over think this. The Mich PS A/S plus are great tires. They also have a mileage warranty. I have them on for two years now, 8M miles, and they are great.

I would guess that Mich, knowing how popular these tires are, aren't going too far afield when they replace them. If and when you wear them out you will likely replace all four anyway. Statistically the fronts will go first and you never want to put new tires on the front leaving the lesser tires on the rear. Doing so will likely cause a spin during a panic stop.

So if I were you, I would find a reasonably priced set, and enjoy the ride.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by at7000ft
I got new A/S Plus all round this summer from Discount Tire with the replacement certs. If I shred one tire and they can't get a replacement I wonder if they will have to give me 4 new similar tires?

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Good question. I am going to Discount Tire tomorrow, I'll ask if the certs help you in that situation.
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I wouldn't try to over think this. The Mich PS A/S plus are great tires. They also have a mileage warranty. I have them on for two years now, 8M miles, and they are great.

I would guess that Mich, knowing how popular these tires are, aren't going too far afield when they replace them. If and when you wear them out you will likely replace all four anyway. Statistically the fronts will go first and you never want to put new tires on the front leaving the lesser tires on the rear. Doing so will likely cause a spin during a panic stop.

So if I were you, I would find a reasonably priced set, and enjoy the ride.
Thanks, I think I have a good price worked out at Discount Tire.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 12:28 AM
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Hmmm...I've never worn out my fronts before the rears.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by c1vettes
I wouldn't try to over think this. The Mich PS A/S plus are great tires. They also have a mileage warranty. I have them on for two years now, 8M miles, and they are great.

I would guess that Mich, knowing how popular these tires are, aren't going too far afield when they replace them. If and when you wear them out you will likely replace all four anyway. Statistically the fronts will go first and you never want to put new tires on the front leaving the lesser tires on the rear. Doing so will likely cause a spin during a panic stop.

So if I were you, I would find a reasonably priced set, and enjoy the ride.
Mileage warranty's???
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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What car you talking about? Firestone wide oval don't come in GS and Z06 sizes only the Bridgestones and Michelin RF do.
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Thought I'd throw my two cents in on the Michelin A/S. I bought these earlier this year and agree they are a great tire. Ride and road noise are incredibly different. Traction is so much better in the cool temps!

I went on a drive before work this morning and at 29* outside they gripped great. With the OEM tires I was afraid to even get on the car a little . Now I'm much more comfortable driving in the cooler temps which was the reason I went with A/S in the first place. I like to drive later in the year before the snow starts to fall and wanted a tire I was comfortable doing that with.
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Originally Posted by RobJoy
Hmmm...I've never worn out my fronts before the rears.
On the forum, far more people have worn out the fronts before the rears. Hard cornering vs burnouts. The crowd is older here, so more inclined to the hard cornering. This is a generalization of course...there are many exceptions.
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Hmmm...I've never worn out my fronts before the rears.
my Goodyears did
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Originally Posted by Don-Vette
What car you talking about? Firestone wide oval don't come in GS and Z06 sizes only the Bridgestones and Michelin RF do.
Mine is a base C6 convertible.
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Originally Posted by cclive
On the forum, far more people have worn out the fronts before the rears. Hard cornering vs burnouts. The crowd is older here, so more inclined to the hard cornering. This is a generalization of course...there are many exceptions.
Originally Posted by Mad*Max
my Goodyears did
My OEM Goodyear fronts are wearing faster than the rears.
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Originally Posted by at7000ft
I got new A/S Plus all round this summer from Discount Tire with the replacement certs. If I shred one tire and they can't get a replacement I wonder if they will have to give me 4 new similar tires?

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Originally Posted by BEAR 55
Good question. I am going to Discount Tire tomorrow, I'll ask if the certs help you in that situation.
I went to Discount Tire today, the certs will not help you replace tires that have been discontinued, the mfg. has to do that, and they said Michelin was the best to work with!
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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I went to Discount Tire today and ordered the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP! They will be here tomorrow! I could see the screen when he did a search for them, the warehouse only had 2 of 1 size and 26 of the other but where I was standing I couldn't see what the sizes were, I wished I would have asked. I had recommended these to a buddy that has a '99. He hated the noisy Goodyears but loves these.
Thanks everyone for the reviews and advice!
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But they are summer tires, I'm wanting all season. And they have no mileage warranty! And their prices are more than all season.
If you are set on an A/S runflat then Michelin or Bridgestone are your choices if you have a "base" C6. Grandsport, Z06 or ZR1 and you are out of luck.

Michelin's "old" A/S is the A/S ZP, the new one is the AS3 (non RF though).

Remember to read the find print on wear warranties. Michelin will reduce the rear's warranty by 50% because you have different sizes front to rear. A/S tires also become less effective after half life.

I had an 08 Coupe, 11 GS Vert and now a 13 GS. I put A/S ZP tires on my 08 and too be honest I wish I didn't. Performance is really lower in any temps above 50 degrees, then they are better below that but not a real big difference.

I put Michelin Super Sports (non RF) on my 11 GS Vert, had them move them over to my 13GS when I bought it. They are fantastic even in dry temps down till around 8 degrees. They are even better than the A/S ZPs at that temp probably because the sidewall is not as stiff.

If you plan on driving in snow with the A/S the C6 is not too friendly in anything more than a light dusting. It'll plow thru if a snow ball or something is above 4 in tall and snow likes to hide potholes which means kiss a $500-1000 rim good bye.

Even in cold temps with my Super Sports, I have seen .85g or so on the g meter. In the same corner I remember the A/S ZP was about .8g and felt like it was slipping.
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Originally Posted by phileaglesfan
.... I put A/S ZP tires on my 08 and too be honest I wish I didn't. Performance is really lower in any temps above 50 degrees, then they are better below that but not a real big difference.

.... If you plan on driving in snow with the A/S the C6 is not too friendly in anything more than a light dusting. It'll plow thru if a snow ball or something is above 4 in tall and snow likes to hide potholes which means kiss a $500-1000 rim good bye. ..... .
Your last point has nothing to do with A/S tires, but a choice we all make when we drive any car in the winter. And driven properly, the A/S shod C6 will go in snow. Anything above 4", hell even 2" and coming, and I avoid driving in any of my cars.

To your first point: as Homer would say, Doh.

A/S tires are, by design, a compromise. They are NOT meant to perform as well as summer performance tires in 50 degree and higher temps. Nor will they perform as well as winter tires in snow. However, they are MEASURABLY better in cold weather performance compared to summer compounds. No comparison there at all.

I swap wheel/tire sets in Oct. (summer to A/S tires) and Apr. (back to summer tires) to enjoy the best performance possible under different Chicago conditions.
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