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Old Dec 4, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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I'm getting a VMAX ported throttle body and was thinking that now is a good time to make any CAI changes. I currently have a stock intake with an oiless, less restrictive filter. I can get an LS7 intake cheaply and cut the plastic off the top so more of the filter shows? Or I was thinking of buying a raid. I like the Haltech best but they are close to 500.00 and the Vararram requires cutting the readiator shroud which I don't want to do since I still have a warranty. Kinda hard to hide that. Would I gain anything with an aftermarket CAI or should I just keep what I have?
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I have a used V-Max and Haltech mf103 from my 2011 coupe for sale. Send me a PM if you are interested.
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I have the V max and it ROCKS!!!
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Keep what you have if you're not willing to cut the shroud.The whole point of "CAI" is cold air induction.If you're not introducing cooler outside air into the area,you defeat the purpose.Just because something is named "CAI" doesn't mean it is. Replacing one big filter for another will not gain you anything worth 500 bucks!If it did,GM would have done it.Your OEM is good for 436 HP,The Z06 filter is good for 505,the ZR1 is good for 638 hp.What more do you need?
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Originally Posted by not08crmanymore
Keep what you have if you're not willing to cut the shroud.The whole point of "CAI" is cold air induction.If you're not introducing cooler outside air into the area,you defeat the purpose.Just because something is named "CAI" doesn't mean it is. Replacing one big filter for another will not gain you anything worth 500 bucks!If it did,GM would have done it.Your OEM is good for 436 HP,The Z06 filter is good for 505,the ZR1 is good for 638 hp.What more do you need?
Cutting the filter housing to expose more filter is a really bad idea too.
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Old Dec 5, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by not08crmanymore
Keep what you have if you're not willing to cut the shroud.The whole point of "CAI" is cold air induction.If you're not introducing cooler outside air into the area,you defeat the purpose.Just because something is named "CAI" doesn't mean it is. Replacing one big filter for another will not gain you anything worth 500 bucks!If it did,GM would have done it.Your OEM is good for 436 HP,The Z06 filter is good for 505,the ZR1 is good for 638 hp.What more do you need?
I agree but I think you are wasting your breath. Too many people feel good when they spend money uselessly then will argue with you so they can think they are right.
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There are some pretty crazy HP claims for some of these CAI. Just curious does the LS3 have the same intake as a LS7?

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Cutting the filter housing to expose more filter is a really bad idea too.
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this intake seems promising i wont be removing my carbon halltech to install it but if i was looking to buy a intake i think i would certainly give this a try.


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this intake seems promising i wont be removing my carbon halltech to install it but if i was looking to buy a intake i think i would certainly give this a try.


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This is similar to the setup on the older Camaro's. This so far is the Only CAI that I have seen. However I can get the same effect for free by cutting my shroud and sealing it off. After I do my exhaust swap that will be next then the Tune.
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Default I think after mkt filter in oem box is gonna be pretty close to after mkt setups.

If you just want a few extra hp, the aftermkt filter in the oem box is gonna give you a fair amount.

My attack blue filter in the oem box, with dynotune made 386rrwhp.

I really doubt an expensive aftermkt setup will make that much more hp.

Dollar for dollar, does the extra $400 produce enough extra hp vs your setup to be a good expense ?
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
If you just want a few extra hp, the aftermkt filter in the oem box is gonna give you a fair amount.

My attack blue filter in the oem box, with dynotune made 386rrwhp.

I really doubt an expensive aftermkt setup will make that much more hp.

Dollar for dollar, does the extra $400 produce enough extra hp vs your setup to be a good expense ?
If you just like to throw money at things, I've seen on for $1,200.
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Originally Posted by not08crmanymore
Keep what you have if you're not willing to cut the shroud.The whole point of "CAI" is cold air induction.If you're not introducing cooler outside air into the area,you defeat the purpose.Just because something is named "CAI" doesn't mean it is. Replacing one big filter for another will not gain you anything worth 500 bucks!If it did,GM would have done it.Your OEM is good for 436 HP,The Z06 filter is good for 505,the ZR1 is good for 638 hp.What more do you need?
Prop open the shroud to the stock intake and you pick up excellent power from only outside air to the filter. I did it on my '06--although replaced the pos intake with an Aircharger. Did it on the '13 with the stock intake which is excellent. Cold air isn't any colder on any CAI than what comes through the grill with the shroud open.
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I'm buying the callaway honker for my 05 it looks like the same one featured in the video, but obviously a different brand.
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Originally Posted by traderfjp
There are some pretty crazy HP claims for some of these CAI. Just curious does the LS3 have the same intake as a LS7?
They are very similar, but.... the LS7 has no silencer chamber attached to the side like the LS3 does. It's possible to cut off the silencer and seal the hole, but it makes zero difference in performance.
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
If you just want a few extra hp, the aftermkt filter in the oem box is gonna give you a fair amount.

My attack blue filter in the oem box, with dynotune made 386rrwhp.

I really doubt an expensive aftermkt setup will make that much more hp.

Dollar for dollar, does the extra $400 produce enough extra hp vs your setup to be a good expense ?
Any HP gain/loss on a dyno that is directly related to an air intake system prior to the valve body is meaningless on the street when the car is moving vs strapped down in one place. Aftermarket companies usually quote big dyno HP numbers that are created under special circumstances, because they have no easily understood way to convey their performance attributes. The only place to create controlled testing results that simulate real street usage, is at the dragstrip. Most people aren't able to grasp the significance of .2 seconds, or any other number, in a 1/4 mile.

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Prop open the shroud to the stock intake and you pick up excellent power from only outside air to the filter. I did it on my '06--although replaced the pos intake with an Aircharger. Did it on the '13 with the stock intake which is excellent. Cold air isn't any colder on any CAI than what comes through the grill with the shroud open.
The difference is where that cold air goes after it reaches the grille opening. With a propped open shroud, hot underhood air is easily mixed with cold grille opening air while the car is stationary. The mix gets colder as the car begins to move and the speed increases. With a good CAI the air is drawn in at the grill opening and never has the opportunity to mix with underhood air irrespective of movement. It's not a major difference, but if you want the maximum power available, it becomes an important factor.
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I did a lot of searching on here about his, and basically what it boils down to is that the stock LS3 intake is already VERY good, and you really aren't likely to gain much from an air intake. If you want to upgrade, get an LS9 air filter (although the 12 and 13 models came with these stock). You could also do the LS7 intake, but it's pretty much just for looks (same as an LS3 without the baffle, which is just there to quite it down a little).

Personally, I'd save the money from the ported throttle body and air intake, and put it towards a cam. You can get a cam package installed for about $2K, and will get a LOT more performance from that.
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