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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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I've read a lot about harmonic balancer problems since I joined the CF family. I have had 25+ company cars over the years, generally putting somewhere between 60,000 and 100,000 miles on them before my next new one. Until I joined CF, I had never heard of a harmonic balancer, obviously never had a problem with one, but they seem to be a somewhat common problem on vettes.

Is there some reason why vettes seem to have problems with them more so than other vehicles?
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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Is there some reason why vettes seem to have problems with them more so than other vehicles?
Yup. Combination of two things:
-Poor engineering.
-GM's refusal to live up to their failures.

GO ATI!
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So what is the easiest way to tell if you have a bad balancer? Were they only on certain engines of certain years, or ???

I have a 2011 GS A6, that is still under warranty.
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If I were an automotive/mechanical engineer I could probably speak with greater authority. Us electrical engineers can only observe. And I observe that the LSx series engine is the only one I've ever seen with a lower pully that lacks a notch or other anti-rotational keying mechanism. The only thing keeping it from twisting around on the crankshaft and destroying all valves & pistons is a stout one-time bolt -- a friction fit. I don't care if you chrome the damn thing, it's still a POS design. I'm frankly amazed there are as few HB problems as there are. The sole virtue of this design is that it's a cash cow for Chevy service managers everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Eritosthenes
If I were an automotive/mechanical engineer I could probably speak with greater authority. Us electrical engineers can only observe. And I observe that the LSx series engine is the only one I've ever seen with a lower pully that lacks a notch or other anti-rotational keying mechanism. The only thing keeping it from twisting around on the crankshaft and destroying all valves & pistons is a stout one-time bolt -- a friction fit. I don't care if you chrome the damn thing, it's still a POS design. I'm frankly amazed there are as few HB problems as there are. The sole virtue of this design is that it's a cash cow for Chevy service managers everywhere.

Excellent recap and analysis. Except GM didn't get my cash, ATI and my local Corvette shop did.
There's no way I was gonna give them a second chance with that stock POS.
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Originally Posted by Eritosthenes
If I were an automotive/mechanical engineer I could probably speak with greater authority. Us electrical engineers can only observe. And I observe that the LSx series engine is the only one I've ever seen with a lower pully that lacks a notch or other anti-rotational keying mechanism. The only thing keeping it from twisting around on the crankshaft and destroying all valves & pistons is a stout one-time bolt -- a friction fit. I don't care if you chrome the damn thing, it's still a POS design. I'm frankly amazed there are as few HB problems as there are. The sole virtue of this design is that it's a cash cow for Chevy service managers everywhere.
Not disputing anything you're saying about it being a POS, but the HB failures reported thus far have not resulted in any engine damage as far as I know. What happens is the HB breaks down over time and tends to give plenty of visible and usually audible advance warning through wobbling pulleys and belt chirps. Serious damage to the engine, though maybe not to your wallet once you're out of warranty, is mostly preventable.

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07 with 28,000 miles on it. Just had it replaced by Corvette Masters, Maitland FL, great job
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