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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 01:48 PM
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Long story very short i tore my seats in my base and purchased some from a 3LT Vette. Obviously the electronics dont work and i dont have time right now to rewire everything so my next best idea was to see if there was anybody near me with a 3lt corvette that would let me plug up my 3lt seat and adjust it Aha sounds odd but i can live with that until i have a chance to rewire it all . located in northern ca nd willing to drive
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Sounds complicated to me. Why not get a wiring diagram, jumper wires, alligator clips and a battery to adjust it.
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Sounds complicated to me. Why not get a wiring diagram, jumper wires, alligator clips and a battery to adjust it.
Not very handy with wires man/: aha
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SoloJ|BU11ET
Not very handy with wires man/: aha
Then I suggest you find a friend that can manage a couple of wires to do it for you because I doubt very much anyone is going to let you do that to their Corvette. You can take the car to a decent shop and they can jump the seat out for you to make the adjustment. Good Luck.
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Then I suggest you find a friend that can manage a couple of wires to do it for you because I doubt very much anyone is going to let you do that to their Corvette. You can take the car to a decent shop and they can jump the seat out for you to make the adjustment. Good Luck.
Yeah I get what you're saying . Isn't much to do though just 4 lug nuts nd the rest is plug and play
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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When you say the electronics don't work I assume you mean the seats worked before you bought them but not now because of wiring. If not, replacing the microprocessors would be VERY expensive. There are 6 pages of schematics for the seats but it actually doesn't look all that complicated if you have all the parts already wired in the seats. You just need to apply power to boot the controllers and power the controller's high current supply to the motors. You won't have the memory switches in the doors that use a serial connection or the steering column controls but you should have pretty much everything else already wired. You should already have the ground through the seat bolts. And the connector C375 has 12 volts on pin A4. All that is left it to get power on pin B3 which might be (probably is) already there also. It might still be plug and play and you will have all the seat motors working.

Instead of finding someone who will let you take the seats out of their car and fiddle with the wiring for a one time adjustment, IMHO it would be better to find someone who is handy with wires and can read schematics and get all of the seat functions except memory working all the time. And it might be as easy as just plugging in one connector that is already there.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 11:36 AM
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When you say the electronics don't work I assume you mean the seats worked before you bought them but not now because of wiring. If not, replacing the microprocessors would be VERY expensive. There are 6 pages of schematics for the seats but it actually doesn't look all that complicated if you have all the parts already wired in the seats. You just need to apply power to boot the controllers and power the controller's high current supply to the motors. You won't have the memory switches in the doors that use a serial connection or the steering column controls but you should have pretty much everything else already wired. You should already have the ground through the seat bolts. And the connector C375 has 12 volts on pin A4. All that is left it to get power on pin B3 which might be (probably is) already there also. It might still be plug and play and you will have all the seat motors working.

Instead of finding someone who will let you take the seats out of their car and fiddle with the wiring for a one time adjustment, IMHO it would be better to find someone who is handy with wires and can read schematics and get all of the seat functions except memory working all the time. And it might be as easy as just plugging in one connector that is already there.
What I mean is when the seat is plugged into my connectors already in the car it doesn't receive power I guess. Just doesn't work whether plugged in or not but yeah you might be right
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Why not just swap the seat tracks?
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Did you check to see of there is a fuse in the fuse block for the power seats?
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Originally Posted by SoloJ|BU11ET
What I mean is when the seat is plugged into my connectors already in the car it doesn't receive power I guess. Just doesn't work whether plugged in or not but yeah you might be right
Oh, . Hopefully you haven't released any of the magic smoke that makes everything work. The 3LT driver's seat switches are powered through the BCM rather than just a fuse like the simple 6-way power seats. I would have assumed that the wiring harness would be the same but maybe not. And maybe the fuse inside the BCM is blown. But the passenger seat doesn't have the memory functions so that seat should work. Again, you need to measure voltages and get power to only 2 connector pins and the movement and lumbar supports should work. But if the seat controller is now low on smoke then the motors will never move without an expensive new controller. BTW, the seat heaters are more complicated since you don't have the switches in the console. They are also computer controlled just like the driver's seat.
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Oh, . Hopefully you haven't released any of the magic smoke that makes everything work. The 3LT driver's seat switches are powered through the BCM rather than just a fuse like the simple 6-way power seats. I would have assumed that the wiring harness would be the same but maybe not. And maybe the fuse inside the BCM is blown. But the passenger seat doesn't have the memory functions so that seat should work. Again, you need to measure voltages and get power to only 2 connector pins and the movement and lumbar supports should work. But if the seat controller is now low on smoke then the motors will never move without an expensive new controller. BTW, the seat heaters are more complicated since you don't have the switches in the console. They are also computer controlled just like the driver's seat.
I didn't know that the 3LT seats and heaters were controlled by the BCM.
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your not good with wiring i don't think anybody will let you play around with their's. take car to a dealership and have it fixed. what you pay now will be cheaper then the repairs later on. this is a corvette. you may want to look at my vette to see if it helps.
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Originally Posted by jsucraig
I didn't know that the 3LT seats and heaters were controlled by the BCM.
Other than the 1LT seats I'm having a hard time coming up with anything else in these cars that isn't either powered by or at least controlled by either the BCM or ECM. The base seat gets power directly from a fuse and has switches mounted on the seat to power the movement motors just like a '65 Cadillac would. Once you move a switch off the seat such as memory seats or heated seats, the communications from the remote switch tends to become digital. When you put your foot on the brake it is the BCM that lights the tail lights. Push a map light switch and they are powered with A/C voltage from the BCM. In the olden days there was a metal fan bolted to the water pump. Today there is an electronic controller powering the fan motor given an A/C speed control signal from the ECM which is communicating what is going on digitally to the BCM.
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