Tire recommendation
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Tire recommendation
Couldn't find a recent post so I'll ask here. I'm looking to replace tires on my 2013 427 Convertible. The car came with Michelin Pilot Sport ZP tires. No doubt a very nice tire that go for in the mid $500s for the rears. I'm looking for something less expensive, Has to be run flats. Big O suggested Pirelli P Zero. The rears go for $340 + fees, a good price. I don't track the car, it's just a weekend pleasure ride however I drive it hard on the streets. I want good traction and wear. Any recommendations about the Pirellis or something else?
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Couldn't find a recent post so I'll ask here. I'm looking to replace tires on my 2013 427 Convertible. The car came with Michelin Pilot Sport ZP tires. No doubt a very nice tire that go for in the mid $500s for the rears. I'm looking for something less expensive, Has to be run flats. Big O suggested Pirelli P Zero. The rears go for $340 + fees, a good price. I don't track the car, it's just a weekend pleasure ride however I drive it hard on the streets. I want good traction and wear. Any recommendations about the Pirellis or something else?
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You probably already know this, but i'll throw it our there anyway. How much wear do you want ?...and how much traction do you want. The usual rule of thumb is the softer the compound, the better the traction. But of course the softer the compound then the quicker the tires wear. Probably need to decide what means the most to you. There are probably a few tires that offer a good mix of each, but just beware of the people that tell you that the last set of brand XXX tires they bought handled GREAT...and they also got 50-K miles out of them.
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I knew there would be comprises. If I wanted the best of both I would stick with the Michelin and fork out the money. I put on about 3500 to 4500 miles a year. Due to the way I drive the car I don't need super sticky tires. So I would be willing to have a tire with a little less traction for mileage and price. That being said the power of this engine is amazing so it does need fairly good tries that stick. So if anyone has something other than the Michelin that cost a bunch less and you are pleased with them, chime in. I just may have to stay with the Pilot Sport ZP.
On my 2012 GS....Hankooks non runflats, wonderful!!!!
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I knew there would be comprises. If I wanted the best of both I would stick with the Michelin and fork out the money. I put on about 3500 to 4500 miles a year. Due to the way I drive the car I don't need super sticky tires. So I would be willing to have a tire with a little less traction for mileage and price. That being said the power of this engine is amazing so it does need fairly good tries that stick. So if anyone has something other than the Michelin that cost a bunch less and you are pleased with them, chime in. I just may have to stay with the Pilot Sport ZP.
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Looks like you have chosen a different size wheel/tire combo for your car. That will complicate things. Whatever you do tho, make sure you buy the right load range and size for the wheels and stagger esp. if you "drive it hard." Good luck.
I take that back about the different sizes. But the Pirelli site lists the front as being an 87Y and the rear as being a 94 Y for your car. https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/...ur-car#/search It does not appear to be runflat. And considering it's a completely different tire (design, build, etc.) I wouldn't want to be mixing brands on different axles, but that's just me.
If that is what your current tires say on the sidewall, all is good!
I take that back about the different sizes. But the Pirelli site lists the front as being an 87Y and the rear as being a 94 Y for your car. https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/...ur-car#/search It does not appear to be runflat. And considering it's a completely different tire (design, build, etc.) I wouldn't want to be mixing brands on different axles, but that's just me.
If that is what your current tires say on the sidewall, all is good!
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Looks like you have chosen a different size wheel/tire combo for your car. That will complicate things. Whatever you do tho, make sure you buy the right load range and size for the wheels and stagger esp. if you "drive it hard." Good luck.
I take that back about the different sizes. But the Pirelli site lists the front as being an 87Y and the rear as being a 94 Y for your car. https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/...ur-car#/search It does not appear to be runflat. And considering it's a completely different tire (design, build, etc.) I wouldn't want to be mixing brands on different axles, but that's just me.
If that is what your current tires say on the sidewall, all is good!
I take that back about the different sizes. But the Pirelli site lists the front as being an 87Y and the rear as being a 94 Y for your car. https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/...ur-car#/search It does not appear to be runflat. And considering it's a completely different tire (design, build, etc.) I wouldn't want to be mixing brands on different axles, but that's just me.
If that is what your current tires say on the sidewall, all is good!
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Neither Discount or TireRack does not show P-Zero run-flats available for ZR1 sizes (same as C6 427)
I purchased Continental Extreme DW's (plural DW, not DWS) when the Michelin rear run-flats were unavailable earlier this year.
Yes, the Continentals are not run-flats but they were $1258 shipped to my door for all four. Better wear rating and ride than the MIchelins and with the money saved I can buy a whole lot of road-side assistance.
I purchased Continental Extreme DW's (plural DW, not DWS) when the Michelin rear run-flats were unavailable earlier this year.
Yes, the Continentals are not run-flats but they were $1258 shipped to my door for all four. Better wear rating and ride than the MIchelins and with the money saved I can buy a whole lot of road-side assistance.
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Your best bet is to use the Tire Rack.com website, put in your car info, and it will bring up the RF tires that fit your car. Based on your listed OEM size (19 front, 20 rear), your selection is very limited to the ones you now have (Michelin Pilot Sport ZP) $411.00 front, $511.00 rear.
The only other listing is Michelin Pilot Cup ZP and Pilot Cup 2 ZP, both more expensive than what you have on now.
The Continental Extreme DW are listed, but non runflats, but way cheaper.
All of the above were Fronts (285-30-19) and Rear (335-25-20)
Discount tire doesn't even list any tires in those sizes.
There are not too many manufacturers that make those sizes, so good luck in your search.
The only other listing is Michelin Pilot Cup ZP and Pilot Cup 2 ZP, both more expensive than what you have on now.
The Continental Extreme DW are listed, but non runflats, but way cheaper.
All of the above were Fronts (285-30-19) and Rear (335-25-20)
Discount tire doesn't even list any tires in those sizes.
There are not too many manufacturers that make those sizes, so good luck in your search.
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No, I didn't choose a different size tire. That's what came stock on the 427 60th Anniversary cars, 335 25 20 rear and 285 30 19 front. And the Pirelli website that you provided does show that the P Zero, in that size, are run flats. Due to the size of the tires I know I likely won't have many options. So it does appear as if Pirelli will be the way I will have to go unless someone here has had bad experience with them or can recommend something else in run flats in my size. I do want to stay with run flats. The Pirelli tires are about $230 less per rear tire and I will be sure to get all 4 tires, I don't believe in mixing tread patterns on performance cars. But I would really like to hear from someone who has these tires, even if you don't have the same size tire. I would be interested in knowing how they perform.
Still, these are the same size tires that are stock on the C7 Z06. If you want more input, I'd post a thread asking for same over on either C7 Gen or C7 Z06 since owners there may have used the RF Pirellis on other cars or possible even on their Z.
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Yes, I did mention in my post that I was wrong about the size tire coming that way on your car. I also did miss the little tag phrase next to the tire that said runflat.
Still, these are the same size tires that are stock on the C7 Z06. If you want more input, I'd post a thread asking for same over on either C7 Gen or C7 Z06 since owners there may have used the RF Pirellis on other cars or possible even on their Z.
Still, these are the same size tires that are stock on the C7 Z06. If you want more input, I'd post a thread asking for same over on either C7 Gen or C7 Z06 since owners there may have used the RF Pirellis on other cars or possible even on their Z.
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Neither Discount or TireRack does not show P-Zero run-flats available for ZR1 sizes (same as C6 427)
I purchased Continental Extreme DW's (plural DW, not DWS) when the Michelin rear run-flats were unavailable earlier this year.
Yes, the Continentals are not run-flats but they were $1258 shipped to my door for all four. Better wear rating and ride than the MIchelins and with the money saved I can buy a whole lot of road-side assistance.
I purchased Continental Extreme DW's (plural DW, not DWS) when the Michelin rear run-flats were unavailable earlier this year.
Yes, the Continentals are not run-flats but they were $1258 shipped to my door for all four. Better wear rating and ride than the MIchelins and with the money saved I can buy a whole lot of road-side assistance.
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Hey Bosscar9er, I have the same car you do. 
The only thing I like about the stock Michelin's is they last a long time (25k) but other than that, they SUCK! No traction and ride ruff. I'm replacing mine with the Pirelli p zeros, my friend has them and they are not run flats but ride better and have much better traction. I believe his last set went about 15k. I'm not sure where you are getting such a great price on them, when I looked they run $730 ea for rear.
The only thing I like about the stock Michelin's is they last a long time (25k) but other than that, they SUCK! No traction and ride ruff. I'm replacing mine with the Pirelli p zeros, my friend has them and they are not run flats but ride better and have much better traction. I believe his last set went about 15k. I'm not sure where you are getting such a great price on them, when I looked they run $730 ea for rear.
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Neither Discount or TireRack does not show P-Zero run-flats available for ZR1 sizes (same as C6 427)
I purchased Continental Extreme DW's (plural DW, not DWS) when the Michelin rear run-flats were unavailable earlier this year.
Yes, the Continentals are not run-flats but they were $1258 shipped to my door for all four. Better wear rating and ride than the MIchelins and with the money saved I can buy a whole lot of road-side assistance.
I purchased Continental Extreme DW's (plural DW, not DWS) when the Michelin rear run-flats were unavailable earlier this year.
Yes, the Continentals are not run-flats but they were $1258 shipped to my door for all four. Better wear rating and ride than the MIchelins and with the money saved I can buy a whole lot of road-side assistance.