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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 09:03 PM
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Just joined. Loving my (new to me) 2011 stock coupe. Man, what a car. Problem is, if I stomp on it the rear goes sideways. Normal even when Traction Control is working?
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it's easy to break the tires loose...the LS3 has plenty of power (430 hp or 436 hp w/NPP exhaust). That's a lot of ponies on the street...
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Welcome to,the forum and Vette ownership. Take it easy.
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Traction control limits wheel spin. Active handling tries to keep the car going in a straight line. But with as much HP being generated there is only so much these two can control.
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Originally Posted by 11LS3A6
Just joined. Loving my (new to me) 2011 stock coupe. Man, what a car. Problem is, if I stomp on it the rear goes sideways. Normal even when Traction Control is working?
Yes, and if it's cold out were you are, it's no problem lighting them up some. Traction control allows for a certain amount of spin by design.
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Originally Posted by Gary '09 C6
it's easy to break the tires loose...the LS3 has plenty of power (430 hp or 436 hp w/NPP exhaust). That's a lot of ponies on the street...
Thanks. The car is a blast to drive!
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Originally Posted by RED84CF
Welcome to,the forum and Vette ownership. Take it easy.
Thanks. It is hard to take it too easy when it is so much fun not to.
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Originally Posted by EVRose
Traction control limits wheel spin. Active handling tries to keep the car going in a straight line. But with as much HP being generated there is only so much these two can control.
Thanks. i'll get the hang of it before too long. Obviously can't just "floor it" from the get go!
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Yes, and if it's cold out were you are, it's no problem lighting them up some. Traction control allows for a certain amount of spin by design.
Thanks. I can't detect that the car is doing anything other than just trying to put all the power to the ground and the rear tires just aren't wide enough to handle it.
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Originally Posted by 11LS3A6
Thanks. I can't detect that the car is doing anything other than just trying to put all the power to the ground and the rear tires just aren't wide enough to handle it.
What are the tires on the car now?
There are some really great tires that offer nice traction, but at a cost.
Again, if your at a colder climate, it's not going to matter too much what tire you use. Do warm those babies up some, before turning on the heat.

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Originally Posted by extrapilot
What are the tires on the car now?
There are some really great tires that offer nice traction, but at a cost.
Again, if your at a colder climate, it's not going to matter too much what tire you use. Do warm those babies up some, before turning on the heat.
The tires are Michelin run flats with what appears to be about 1/2 their tread and the temp around here has been it the 40-60 range. I am just gonna have to ease into extreme acceleration.
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The Michelin run-flats could be PS2 ZPs, which is a summer performance tire. Definitely loses some traction as temps. go below 50*F...
and you said the tires are already half-worn. Alternatively, they could be the Michelin A/S ZPs...

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The nannies seem to work much better on the new Z06. I can feel the tires break loose a bit when I get on it, but it self-corrects very quickly.
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Originally Posted by Gary '09 C6
The Michelin run-flats could be PS2 ZPs, which is a summer performance tire. Definitely loses some traction as temps. go below 50*F...
and you said the tires are already half-worn. Alternatively, they could be the Michelin A/S ZPs...
Just looked and they say "Pilot Super Sport". I was thinking half the tread left was a good thing. You are saying they have lost a meaningful amount of their gripping ability?
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Originally Posted by Babaron
The nannies seem to work much better on the new Z06. I can feel the tires break loose a bit when I get on it, but it self-corrects very quickly.
Considering what my car feels like, a new Z06 must be just insane!
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Originally Posted by extrapilot
Yes, and if it's cold out were you are, it's no problem lighting them up some. Traction control allows for a certain amount of spin by design.


In the summer my car will light them and also snap your neck into second all while being under some semblance of control but in the winter ( well as cold as it gets in Georgia, that we call winter ) my car is dangerous

Just yesterday it was 34 degrees in the AM and I pulled out into a line of traffic , I should have waited but I did not , knowing that I pissed the guy off behind me I laid on the gas pedal a little to much and almost found myself out of control

I have brand new Michelin Pilot Super Sports on the car , in the summer they stick like glue in the winter .....

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Originally Posted by 11LS3A6
Just looked and they say "Pilot Super Sport". I was thinking half the tread left was a good thing. You are saying they have lost a meaningful amount of their gripping ability?

Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZPs are the replacement for the PS2 ZPs...an improved tire model...released with the 2014 C7. Half the tread remaining is fine, but obviously not as grippy as new..plus the effect of many heat cycles. My sense is the combination of power plus colder temps is giving you the tire/car behavior you are experiencing when mashing the throttle !
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Originally Posted by 11LS3A6
Just looked and they say "Pilot Super Sport". I was thinking half the tread left was a good thing. You are saying they have lost a meaningful amount of their gripping ability?

Half the tread life is fine .
They are not an all weather tire , they are strictly a summer tire . So when it's cold out , they will loose grip

In the summer they stick like glue !

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Originally Posted by Gary '09 C6
Michelin Pilot Super Sport ZPs are the replacement for the PS2 ZPs...an improved tire model...released with the 2014 C7. Half the tread remaining is fine, but obviously not as grippy as new..plus the effect of many heat cycles. My sense is the combination of power plus colder temps is giving you the tire/car behavior you are experiencing when mashing the throttle !
Thanks! This morning I increased the rate of acceleration more slowly but that last little stab to the floor still spun them a little bit. Actually quite fun as long as in control!
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Half the tread life is fine .
They are not an all weather tire , they are strictly a summer tire . So when it's cold out , they will loose grip

In the summer they stick like glue !

Dave
Thanks! Looking forward to the warmer weather.
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