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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Hey OP i just realized you're in rocheport? im in columbia.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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In reality, it's pretty much all guesstimates that people use for bragging rights. Every dyno is different and every day is different. Arguing that your car make 550whp and my car "only" made 530whp and yours should be faster... is pretty much pointless. If I metered my car on the dyno your car was on, in the same conditions then I might make 560whp. You just don't know. Unless the cars were metered on the same dyno the same day literally back to back then there is no real way to say which makes more power.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 08:10 PM
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While adding HP does increase the drive train loss, its not linear. For example, doubling your HP does not magically double the drive-train losses. Of course, how would you know without an engine dyno how much HP you actually added?

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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 09:14 PM
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After doing an oil change using Amsoil, I picked up an added 20 HP.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bobeast
While adding HP does increase the drive train loss, its not linear. For example, doubling your HP does not magically double the drive-train losses. Of course, how would you know without an engine dyno how much HP you actually added?
exactly. but theoretically its a safe enough estimation. the coefficients of friction are not changing within the drive train because you are adding hp, the gear materials are still the same, the oil coating them is still the same, the bearings and heat transfer is the same...so theory says its the same because ultimately your loss is through friction/heat.

honestly i could make an argument that at some higher hp you may be increasing loss depending on how well the drive train can dissipate the added heat. you will reach a threshold where the drive train cant shed the heat from the added power at which point you would lose more % of power.

for those that arent correlating why added power = more heat think of this. take an angle grinder and grind on a block of steel the steel gets hot. now keep grinding but push down with all of your strength onto the grinder, it gets hotter faster right?. you havent changed the coefficients or materials what you've changed is the force at which the grinding wheel is in contact with the steel. the same thing happens when you add more HP you are increasing the force that the gears must interact with one another and you add heat.

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Originally Posted by billyboy47
After doing an oil change using Amsoil, I picked up an added 20 HP.
WOW billy.....thats an incredible increase just because of an oil change. Whats in Amsoil to make such and increase ?.......inquiring minds want to know....
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by windyC6
WOW billy.....thats an incredible increase just because of an oil change. Whats in Amsoil to make such and increase ?.......inquiring minds want to know....
unicorn tears. superior lubrication
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettemuscle1
unicorn tears. superior lubrication
Oh...OK...I thought maybe it was "V-MAX".....chuckle....
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