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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Here you go, pick your unit...WW

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Well, well...thanks. Turned out the charger was telling me the battery was sulfated. Makes sense. When I went to take it out, I got close to it and it smelled of sulfur.

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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 12:39 PM
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Glad you got it all worked out. I got to thinking about the age of my battery since I may be taking a few trips this fall. I can't seem to find the "PS" numbers you guys are talking about any suggestions on how to tell the age of this battery 08 LS3

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That is a factory battery. Easiest way to tell, is the labels. Factory/some dealer batt have Grey labels. All other ACDelco batteries will have Blue lettering, and a barcode.

I work is an ACDelco parts store.


ETA. That battery is old. Prior to 2012, anyway. ACDelco stopped making the 7yr batteries, early 2012.

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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 03:27 PM
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Label looks like mine did.
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WW7
It may have just needed to recalibrate, after having the bad battery and then installing a new battery...I have had weird things happen to mine after disconnecting the battery...Try starting it a few times , if it starts normal from this point on I would just think it needed to reset the ecm after the bad battery screwed it up with low voltage......WW
This could be accurate. I've had several electrical "Gremlins" show up for no reason, and they would go away for no reason. They may not happen often, but this is one of those little nagging C-6 issues that I think about when we talk about the reliability of these C-6's......good luck with it.
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 04:51 PM
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The issue I have with the car, and likely any modern cars, is that it doesn't do what I tell it to do. Instead, it considers my input and then decides if it wants to go along with my idea or go on strike.

For example, when I press the ignition toggle up to start the car, I'm always tense during the lag because I know the car's having some sort of internal conference to decide if it should start or not.

We have drive by wire and now brake by wire. I heard of bicycle gearset which is change by Bluetooth so I expect we'll soon lose our wires and get Bluetooth or other wireless tech to steer, brake, fuel and gosh knows what else.

I just cannot bring myself to trust all this.
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Trixxterr
That is a factory battery. Easiest way to tell, is the labels. Factory/some dealer batt have Grey labels. All other ACDelco batteries will have Blue lettering, and a barcode.

I work is an ACDelco parts store.


ETA. That battery is old. Prior to 2012, anyway. ACDelco stopped making the 7yr batteries, early 2012.
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Label looks like mine did.
Thanks Guys, I was thinking it could be the original one. It was cranking a little slow last week so I think I will get a new one next week!!
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Hey, it's the era of the self driving car. Just fire it up, install a GPS location and begin watching a quality movie, or maybe take a quick nap.
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The issue I have with the car, and likely any modern cars, is that it doesn't do what I tell it to do. Instead, it considers my input and then decides if it wants to go along with my idea or go on strike.

For example, when I press the ignition toggle up to start the car, I'm always tense during the lag because I know the car's having some sort of internal conference to decide if it should start or not.

We have drive by wire and now brake by wire. I heard of bicycle gearset which is change by Bluetooth so I expect we'll soon lose our wires and get Bluetooth or other wireless tech to steer, brake, fuel and gosh knows what else.

I just cannot bring myself to trust all this.
I'm with you 100%.

You don't need an engineering degree to understand that the more complex any system is, the more things there are to go wrong.
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This is a huge problem in semi trucks. Everything is controlled buy computers. Most even have auto shift manual transmissions. And they really suck. They have no clutch pedal or shifter just push buttons. They dont move just a few inches. If you are a foot from a dock you will get whiplash when it slams into the dock.2014 is the last year my employer has purchased manual transmissions. So I grabed a 2014 Freightliner and will keep it until they take it out of service. Hopefully I will retire by then. But it's the same thing. You make a request and it decides if you can have it or not.

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Originally Posted by dryadsdad
The issue I have with the car, and likely any modern cars, is that it doesn't do what I tell it to do. Instead, it considers my input and then decides if it wants to go along with my idea or go on strike.

For example, when I press the ignition toggle up to start the car, I'm always tense during the lag because I know the car's having some sort of internal conference to decide if it should start or not.

We have drive by wire and now brake by wire. I heard of bicycle gearset which is change by Bluetooth so I expect we'll soon lose our wires and get Bluetooth or other wireless tech to steer, brake, fuel and gosh knows what else.

I just cannot bring myself to trust all this.
HUM.......I think. buti'm not sure what you're trying to call it, but it really doesn't matter if its this new computer stuff or not, the car should do what you want it to...when you want it to. If it doesn't, then I call that not being reliable no matter how you cut it. You got one thing absolutely correct....I don't trust a lot of things about this car.....oh well...."It is what it is"....LOL.....
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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HUM.......I think. buti'm not sure what you're trying to call it, but it really doesn't matter if its this new computer stuff or not, the car should do what you want it to...when you want it to. If it doesn't, then I call that not being reliable no matter how you cut it. You got one thing absolutely correct....I don't trust a lot of things about this car.....oh well...."It is what it is"....LOL.....
My gripe is that a good deal of this automation isn't functional. A press the button to start but have a fully charge fob on hand when you do isn't any more effective at starting a car than a steel key. The only difference is that the push to start has many more failure points than the steel key.

Some stuff is in the middle and I suppose does give back for the complexity. For example, my BMW bike has an immobilzer ignition which requires a special coded key. I had to get a new one and the parts guy said to me, "How much do you think it's going to cost?" which made me afraid.

It was many multiples of a non coded steel key, but at least I have a bike which is impossible to start w/o the key. So I get something back.

The only thing I got back this time from the Vette was a sincere spooking when the car went Christine.
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2016 | 08:45 PM
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Put that CTEK back on the new battery...there is no assurance that the new battery is fully charged.
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Originally Posted by WW7
It may have just needed to recalibrate, after having the bad battery and then installing a new battery...I have had weird things happen to mine after disconnecting the battery...Try starting it a few times , if it starts normal from this point on I would just think it needed to reset the ecm after the bad battery screwed it up with low voltage......WW
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by duramaxsky
This is a huge problem in semi trucks. Everything is controlled buy computers. Most even have auto shift manual transmissions. And they really suck. They have no clutch pedal or shifter just push buttons. They dont move just a few inches. If you are a foot from a dock you will get whiplash when it slams into the dock.2014 is the last year my employer has purchased manual transmissions. So I grabed a 2014 Freightliner and will keep it until they take it out of service. Hopefully I will retire by then. But it's the same thing. You make a request and it decides if you can have it or not.
....no kidding.....I was just talking to another driver yesterday about how simple and reliable the older trucks used to be.....we have an 18A that has a clutch peddle that will work great until all of a sudden it won't shift out of a gear. Have to pull over shut down and wait a few minutes fire it up and everything is good then......major PIA......give me a 13M any day.....
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Old Aug 15, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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My gripe is that a good deal of this automation isn't functional. A press the button to start but have a fully charge fob on hand when you do isn't any more effective at starting a car than a steel key. The only difference is that the push to start has many more failure points than the steel key.

Some stuff is in the middle and I suppose does give back for the complexity. For example, my BMW bike has an immobilzer ignition which requires a special coded key. I had to get a new one and the parts guy said to me, "How much do you think it's going to cost?" which made me afraid.

It was many multiples of a non coded steel key, but at least I have a bike which is impossible to start w/o the key. So I get something back.

The only thing I got back this time from the Vette was a sincere spooking when the car went Christine.
Absolutely spot on. I don't really have a problem with all this techno stuff....if it would work correctly all the time and not just when ever it feels like it. It also doesn't help that when you do have a problem that you may have to replace a whole darn structure of something at an outrageous price just to fix one smaller thing. The auto shift solenoid comes to mind. I hate taking short-cuts like tying it back....but I wasn't about to give GM the cost of an entire shift unit just for a $10 solenoid.....
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I would never go back to a carburated, points, plugs and condenser machine. I like the computerized engine that will go 100K miles on a set of spark plugs and re-tunes itself no matter what gas I put in it or what elevation I drive to. I also like the sleek little fob that doesn't poke me in the leg or jingle excessively in my pants.

I recognize computers have their limitations and sometimes they hiccup but I have stood beside both old and new broken down cars on the side of the road and it's the same difference. And for you guys who say "at least I could fix the old one"; well, unless you had a parts store in the trunk - which many of us did - you were as dead as you would be today.

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I would never go back to a carburated, points, plugs and condenser machine. I like the computerized engine that will go 100K miles on a set of spark plugs and re-tunes itself no matter what gas I put in it or what elevation I drive to. I also like the sleek little fob that doesn't poke me in the leg or jingle excessively in my pants.

I recognize computers have their limitations and sometimes they hiccup but I have stood beside both old and new broken down cars on the side of the road and it's the same difference. And for you guys who say "at least I could fix the old one"; well, unless you had a parts store in the trunk - which many of us did - you were as dead as you would be today.
Point taken. But i'm not so much talking about the much improved ignition systems, they are far above the old points set up. I'm more or less talking about all this other little piddly electronic crap that can and will go bonkers on you. Push button this....solenoid that....micro-switch here.....super sensor there....etc...etc. Heck...you could have some electrical thing-a-ma-jiggy go south in one of these new fan-geld automatics and it may cost you an arm and a leg just to have the $20 part replaced cause they have to pull the whole box to do it......
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