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Old Aug 29, 2016 | 09:56 AM
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I "upgraded" my NAV just a few months ago for my 2012 GS. It had been working fine up until we left for Carlisle. The disc seems to have frozen and we get a nav screen sometimes and a fail to read other times. More the latter.

Anyone know the warranty on these? Just checked, purchased on May 4.

I still have the old DVD and will try that first, and if it works, try cleaning the new version.

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You should also use canned air to clean the drive. As far as warranty, you might want to ask the experts instead of just those of us with opinions - http://gmnavdisc.navigation.com/cms/...en_US/GMNA/USD

BTW, this is why I never put an original CD or DVD in a car. I always use copies for the harsh environment and can then make another copy if the disc fails.
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The old DVD works just fine.Well, the DVD only has a 30 day warranty, so I'm SOL.

The company that sold me the DVD, HERE, suggested I use the old one or just wait a year or two for the next upgrade.

No, you can kiss my axe.

$180 down the drain in 4 months.
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ladder13
The old DVD works just fine.Well, the DVD only has a 30 day warranty, so I'm SOL.

The company that sold me the DVD, HERE, suggested I use the old one or just wait a year or two for the next upgrade.

No, you can kiss my axe.

$180 down the drain in 4 months.

As FortMorganAl said, it is a good idea to use a copy disc in the car and save the original. Cars are dirty, dusty, gritty places for precision optical drives...especially DVDs, which are much more finicky than CDs. Use your computer and copy the new disc then put the copy in the car. A computer drive will frequently be better at reading a problem disc than the drive in the car, especially if the lens in the car is dirty.
I use a disc copy in the car because I don't want a $200 disc to be stolen, whereas a $ .20 disc wouldn't bother me if it went away or was damaged.
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I take it that you bought version 10, 2016 from Nav Disc Dividion.
Is the DVD scratched? Have you tried the remedies for a bad DVD found on the internet?
Have you tried running a cleaning DVD in your NAV player slot?

PM me for further details.

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I would try copying it to your computer and then burning it on a new DVD. Computer DVD Rom's are much better at dealing with scratched discs than the headunit is.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
I take it that you bought version 10, 2016 from Nav Disc Dividion.
Is the DVD scratched? Have you tried the remedies for a bad DVD found on the internet?
Have you tried running a cleaning DVD in your NAV player slot?

PM me for further details.

Sorry for the tardy reply.
I sent it to CA for a disc refurb, $12 total cost shipping included. Works fine.

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Sorry for the tardy reply.
I sent it to CA for a disc refurb, $12 total cost shipping included. Works fine.
Glad it worked out. money well spent in this case
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Originally Posted by ladder13
I "upgraded" my NAV just a few months ago for my 2012 GS. . . .
Question - - does the updated disc (Version 10.0 / 2016) have some improvements over the older disc, other than of course, more updated roadway data, etc.? I have NAV in my '07 but wonder if I should just use my Garmin GPS which is great?
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Question - - does the updated disc (Version 10.0 / 2016) have some improvements over the older disc, other than of course, more updated roadway data, etc.? I have NAV in my '07 but wonder if I should just use my Garmin GPS which is great?
As a user of the OEM Nav that has updated from the initial version 2, to version 5, version 7, version 9 then 10, I can tell you that the graphics have not been updated since the beginning. What has been updated is the added roadways, new streets etc, depending on the year the roads or streets were built and completed.
I can also tell you that roads and streets in my area that were not in Version 9, are now in version 10, meaning that any road or street built and completed before 2015 would most likely be on the newest version.
Each version has added more and more sponsored POI's, and version 10 by far, has many of the newest hotel chains and restaurants compared to even version 9.
I personally like the OEM Nav, mainly because of the HUD integration, and it is quite powerful, but it is not easy to learn all the ins and outs of how best to use it. It took me a few years of continuous uses, and playing around with it to fully understand how to use the memory points as an advantage over simply using the destination only option.

It will never compare to a Garmin like GPS, because they are so simple to use without needing to read a manual. It's too bad that they can't be made to integrate with the HUD, which is by far the biggest plus for the OEM Nav.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
As a user of the OEM Nav that has updated from the initial version 2, to version 5, version 7, version 9 then 10, I can tell you that the graphics have not been updated since the beginning. What has been updated is the added roadways, new streets etc, depending on the year the roads or streets were built and completed.
I can also tell you that roads and streets in my area that were not in Version 9, are now in version 10, meaning that any road or street built and completed before 2015 would most likely be on the newest version.
Each version has added more and more sponsored POI's, and version 10 by far, has many of the newest hotel chains and restaurants compared to even version 9.
I personally like the OEM Nav, mainly because of the HUD integration, and it is quite powerful, but it is not easy to learn all the ins and outs of how best to use it. It took me a few years of continuous uses, and playing around with it to fully understand how to use the memory points as an advantage over simply using the destination only option.

It will never compare to a Garmin like GPS, because they are so simple to use without needing to read a manual. It's too bad that they can't be made to integrate with the HUD, which is by far the biggest plus for the OEM Nav.
Many thanks for the detailed explanation! I'd say for aesthetics that I learn to use the OEM NAV and not worry about the Garmin. I do like the fact that the prompts show up in the HUD. At least, the NAV system does work fairly well and it lets you know (as in our case living in the Central Sierras in a rural region) when there is insufficient data.

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Originally Posted by bassman50
Many thanks for the detailed explanation! I'd say for aesthetics that I learn to use the OEM NAV and not worry about the Garmin. I do like the fact that the prompts show up in the HUD. At least, the NAV system does work fairly well and it lets you know (as in our case living in the Central Sierras in a rural region) when there is insufficient data.

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Steve,
On many of my "planned" road trips, I input all the hotels that I'm staying or likely to stay at each daily stop over. I do make a day to day travel guide, so I know where I'm starting from and ending each day.
I often book the hotels prior to, but often use the Hotel coupons from hotelcoupons.com.
I also input favorite restaurants, shopping, selve serve car washes, etc. into my memory points and select the one I'll be stopping at first when I leave in the AM.
The nice thing about memory points, is they can be selected while moving, and are listed by distance, etc.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
Steve,
On many of my "planned" road trips, I input all the hotels that I'm staying or likely to stay at each daily stop over. I do make a day to day travel guide, so I know where I'm starting from and ending each day.
I often book the hotels prior to, but often use the Hotel coupons from hotelcoupons.com.
I also input favorite restaurants, shopping, selve serve car washes, etc. into my memory points and select the one I'll be stopping at first when I leave in the AM.
The nice thing about memory points, is they can be selected while moving, and are listed by distance, etc.
Many thanks for this added information, plus the attachment you included to assist me with the programming! I definitely need to really READ my NAV manual!

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Originally Posted by ladder13
Sorry for the tardy reply.
I sent it to CA for a disc refurb, $12 total cost shipping included. Works fine.
If you don't know how to create an ISO backup of the DVD I would be happy to burn you some backup copies.

You can create an ISO even though your DVD drive may not have dual layer burn capability. I can walk you through the process of creating the ISO, uploading the ISO to my FTP site where I will download it, burn you backup DVD's and mail them to you.

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Originally Posted by ladder13
Sorry for the tardy reply.
I sent it to CA for a disc refurb, $12 total cost shipping included. Works fine.
Most computers have a Dual Layer DVd, so it's really easy to make a copy for yourself.
The best result is using a free software IMGBURN, and Verbatim DVD+R DL DVD's.
I've made many copies of all of my previous and present versions, and they all worked flawlesslty.

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